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Is there anything that can be done if you find out nonessential businesses are staying open and not following the shutdown?
Why are Nonessential Businesses Staying Open?
Anonymous
March 23, 2020, 12:25 pm
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The list of essential businesses is quite extensive.
See: https://covid19.ca.gov/img/EssentialCriticalInfrastructureWorkers.pdf
I am self-employed, but keeping my business open, which is online-only, fulfilling Amazon orders. I work alone, out of a warehouse, maintain strict hygiene and since I am working alone, not interacting with anyone at close distance, I am not compromising anyone else’s health.
If I am preventing from working, I will not be eligible for unemployment benefits, so it is best for me to be earning a living, staying healthy, and not out on the streets, angry and breathing on YOU.
Gotta problem with that?
I noticed two people sitting at a table at Jeannines on coast village road this morning which is a big nono
OP – what business are you talking about? It’s OK to list them here. If they’re open, it’s not like it’s not public knowledge anyway. We should know who to avoid.
PUG – what if those 2 people were family members from the same household? I hope you didn’t report it. Remember folks, the SB Police have asked us to NOT call 911 to report people within 6 feet of each other. Please let them do their work. We are still allowed to be in public and even within 6 feet if we’re from the same household. BUT….. non essential businesses should be closed as they create a risk of exposure, even if they are a single person packing shop.
They should not have been sitting at the table. Those tables should not be open.
And I didn’t report them
Are outdoor tables banned? If so, I was not aware.
Disease could live on those surfaces and also, jeannines is supposed to be take out and delivery only. The patio tables should have been covered
My favorite is the bottle shop on coast village road next to cava
I was surprised mission street ice cream has been open….. the tackle shop is open…. Dave’s dogs on turnpike was allowing people To sit inside… I hope we go on a full blown lockdown- only grocery stores and pharmacies open….
You should report those businesses
Because many people are scared, struggling, and most of all, selfish.
It also seems you don’t understand the rules. Restaurants are not allowed to be open for dining in.
Agreed 424
Let it be snitch. As long as everyone keeps their distance, it’s all good. Everyone needs to pay the bills and put food on the table.
Sorry but this is a public safety hazard and it’s attitudes like yours that cause people to not take precautions
PUG – I never said restaurants are allowed to be open for dining in. You’re really twisting things here and I don’d understand why. I was just wondering if outdoor tables were prohibited. As far as reporting them, go ahead. You seem to have a need to report others so go for it. Just remember, people are ALLOWED to be in public, just not in close, unrelated groups. Also remember, the SBPD has asked the community to STOP calling 911 for this, but you do you and have fun. I’ll keep myself safe. Have a nice day.
Outdoor tables still constitute dine in
Also, I said I did not report them.
No need to be rude. Just trying to keep people safe
These people…police nannies, probably don’t know what is allowed..and it has not been all that clear..
My husband, works in Oxnard, sells product, to the government…Raytheon, think tank same…they are isolating…
The small businesses, are closing here by the hour…we need hardware stores, restaurants,etc..to stay open as long as they can.
Are you essential or not?
Just because a business is open, doesn’t mean YOU have to shop there….. I don’t really see what the issue is…. What a ridiculous topic to be discussing ….
Please heed the warning. Stay home unless you need essential things or have essential work or face fines or possible jail time.
Jail time? Not sure that’s true.
Bill brown announced it during the press conference
I did not hear that, my bad.
why is this confusing? 1. you have people more than likely NOT sick getting food. 2. Did you not read to stay away from medical establishments? Samsun would qualify as NO GO ZONE. if you are NOT sick.
it is a topic to be discussed because people are treating this like a game. Follow the rules, and then no one will call you out on the internet…….. otherwise….. suck it up buttercup and get ready for people to point the finger and call you an asshole for being out and ignoring the mandates
keep it up pug, I like your style
Thanks. Just wanna keep my community safe.
It is a public safety issue
PSTARSR – you are WRONG. Stop spreading lies. You can go outside, go to the beach or the park. You can NOT do it with a group of people other than your family or members of your household. You will not be fined or arrested for “going out.” In fact, you CAN be fined for filing a false police report and calling 911 because you see a family walking on the beach. THAT is illegal.
Just to be clear, since it still seems to be confusing:
• Everyone is required to stay home except to *get food*, care for a relative or friend,
get necessary health care, go to an essential job, or for *outdoor recreation.*
• *Going outside* for fresh air or recreation, such as walking, hiking, biking *are allowed
and beneficial to one’s wellbeing.*
• If you go outside, keep at least *6 feet of distance between persons* at all times.
——- https://www.countyofsb.org/asset.c/5274
Hmmm. Essential vs non-essential. Currently one can walk into restaurants like Carl’s Jr and McDonalds for take-out and sit inside while waiting for order, but Sansun prescription office is not allowing you to do that there. Must have Rx mailed or delivered.
It’s a public safety issue
Good points. Let’s hope many lessees read the fine print when they signed their lease agreements. I’d encourage all of them to go over the details as closely as they can. Plenty of lease agreements exempt rent payment from Force Majeure clauses, so lessees may still be obligated to pay. However, there is also usually a “quiet enjoyment” clause, which states that the lessee shall enjoy full use of their space, that could be arguable if they’ve been forced to shut down. We’ll see what arises from this mess.
Gaucho. Anyone waiting for food should keep their distance from others. It’s that simple. Look out for yourself. If someone gets too close, move away. You “likely” won’t get infected if you take all the precautions recommended. You don’t have to go to restaurants! Live and let live. Geez people. This is hard enough as it is without all the whining.
If anyone knows of any business violating the rules, it is ok to call them out by posting the name here. We have to call them out to protect the health and safety of the community.
No. We need to report businesses operating illegally especially when we’re dealing with a pandemic.
Illegal business operations at a time like this put this community in danger.
During the next month or so, we will learn what the human cost of this virus will be. However, I fear the worst of the consequences of the Corona virus will be caused by our reaction rather than the virus itself. The extent of the economic damage we are causing right now is not yet visible, but it is going to be severe. I believe the economic devastation that follows the Corona virus has the potential to claim far more lives than the virus. I understand the basis for criticizing those who continue working, but in the the fullness of time we may find the cure was worse than the disease.
This is why I’m calling for reporting of violations https://www.edhat.com/news/one-person-hospitalized-as-covid-19-cases-increase-to-32
Please don’t spread misinformation
Why do edhatters seem to not want to deal with the issue of social distancing violations?
What misinformation? All I said was there is a lot we don’t know. We are closing the economy in order to reduce the loss of life form the Corona virus by an amount that can’t be quantified. We don’t know what the loss of life would be if we did nothing, or if we pursued other strategies. I think it is also important to consider the impact that our economic self destruction will have and what loss of life it might cause. Some would say we should write off economics when human life is at stake. I agree with that sentiment, but I don’t think it’s that simple. One could make a strong case that the great depression caused world war II. Economic cost can lead to significant human cost. I’m not saying that our current strategy of “social isolation” is right or wrong. I am only pointing out the extent to which “social isolation” will save lives that would otherwise be claimed by the virus is unknown, and the extent to which it will cost lives due to unforeseen consequences is also unknown.
Sometimes people run out of money and need to work to be able to buy food?