By Keith Hamm, UC Santa Barbara‘s The Current
In its recent ruling against admissions policies that take race into account at Harvard University and the University of North Carolina, the U.S. Supreme Court reversed its decades-long position on affirmative action, further complicating the challenges faced by institutes of higher education to increase, or even maintain, diverse student bodies.
Leading the court’s conservative supermajority, Chief Justice Roberts stressed that admissions policies that take race into account unconstitutionally violate the guarantee of equal protection under the 14th Amendment. In dissent, Justice Sonia Sotomayor wrote that the ruling was “devastating” and that the court was “further entrenching racial inequality in education.”
For perspective on the court’s position and UC Santa Barbara’s place in the post-affirmative action era, The Current caught up with political science professor Pei-te Lien and professor Jeffrey Milem, who has served as the Jules Zimmer Dean of the Gevirtz Graduate School of Education since 2016.
Lien has been teaching affirmative action for nearly 30 years in courses on Asian American and U.S. racial politics. Her research focuses on political action and representation among Asian and other nonwhite Americans. She is the co-founder of the Asian Pacific American Caucus, a related group of the Washington, D.C.-based American Political Science Association.
Milem specializes in racial dynamics and equity in higher education. His scholarship on affirmative action includes a study of the University of California v. Bakke decision, and commissioned research for the Harvard Civil Rights Project and the American Educational Research Association. In 2003, his published work was cited by the Supreme Court in Grutter v. Bollinger, which upheld the University of Michigan’s ability to include the consideration of race in law school admissions.
Together with more than 1,200 other social scientists and scholars on college access, Asian American studies and race, Lien and Milem signed an amicus brief in support of Harvard University and the University of North Carolina.
The Current: What was your initial reaction to the ruling?
Pei-te Lien: For the majority of the nation concerned about equal opportunities for Black, Hispanic, Native American and other structurally disadvantaged students to enter elite colleges, it was an earthshaking decision. The Supreme Court had previously upheld the use of race as a factor in school admissions after the Bakke decision in 1978. Since then, and despite repetitive challenges, race-conscious admissions practices have been legal at the federal level.
One fears there will be cascading effects of banning race in law school admissions and in other areas of affirmative action that cover employment and business contracting. Gender is another protected category in school decisions, and this decision may impair any efforts to advance gender and sexuality rights moving forward, beyond the abortion ban. Also, dismantling race-conscious affirmative action in college admissions may impair minority access to political representation by dismantling race-conscious redistricting efforts. So this decision has implications beyond race and racial justice.
The UC president said in a statement that the use of race in admissions has been a valuable practice that has increased diversity. Overall, what have been the measurable benefits of affirmative action?
Jeffrey Milem: They are abundant and profound. On an individual level, a review of the research on the benefits of diversity suggests that there is an important relationship between an emphasis on diversity and important student outcomes. Simply put, there are numerous ways in which individuals benefit from their interactions with diverse information and ideas and people while they are in college. Diversity also enhances the effectiveness of an institution or organization. For the whole of society, having a diverse workforce and student body contributes to the achievement of democratic ideals of equity and access, the development of an educated and involved citizenry and the provision of services to groups who are badly underserved.
What have been the imperfections of affirmative action?
Milem: The imperfection from a public policy viewpoint is that despite all of the work that has been done to establish abundant empirical evidence on the multiple benefits of diverse universities — plus the compelling data showing that racial equity and fair access to educational opportunities are still a very long way from being addressed — we have failed to protect the right of college and university leaders to use race as one of many factors in college admissions.
One shortcoming I see from an educational perspective is our failure as educators to establish all of the conditions that are necessary to produce the educational benefits that can be achieved. We are learning, but we have been slow in learning how to do this.
Lien: For nearly 30 years, I have reminded my students that affirmative action is not another anti-discrimination measure. We can also keep in mind that affirmative action is a temporary measure and has been used as a ubiquitous, necessary, but also convenient fix to the remnants of systemic racism and structural inequality in education, employment, business contracting and other prized opportunities.
Did the ruling surprise you?
Milem: Given the composition of the court, the ruling did not surprise me. Even though I anticipated this outcome, I underestimated the profound hurt and disappointment I felt when it was announced.
The court dismissed the compelling evidence of systemic disadvantages that many students of color and first-generation and immigrant students continue to face, and it dismissed the mountain of empirical evidence documenting the numerous benefits that diversity in higher education has for students, institutions and the private sector. Our society supports the use of race as a consideration in admissions, and there is abundant compelling evidence which supports the continued use of race as one of many factors in admissions. At the same time, there is paucity of any reliable evidence that supports the argument to end affirmative action. This decision violates every tenet of what I believe as a scholar and it poses a deep threat to our citizens and our democracy.
Since 1996’s Proposition 209, consideration of race in admissions has been banned in California. Since then, the UC has used a “comprehensive review process.” Can it serve as a template?
Lien: UCSB was the first UC campus to adopt comprehensive review in our admissions decisions. We have developed a sophisticated system that considers many factors in one’s personal, family and contextual background that may impact one’s socialization and academic performance. The UC system also adopted a “percent plan” which currently guarantees admission to California resident applicants who are either in the top 9% of high school graduates statewide or the top 9% of graduates from their own high schools. I think this combined system has contributed to the distinction of UCSB being the first Hispanic-serving institution among the nation’s top elite institutions of higher education. We have moved beyond the simple consideration of a racial category, which most Californians and increasingly more Americans of all origins denounce. So as the nation laments the death of affirmative action, we have moved forward beyond affirmative action as we know it, and with some success.
Is the UCSB model the template for the post-affirmative action era? Yes and no. Whereas we have developed a system of comprehensive review in evaluating applicants, our admissions office also works diligently to recruit under-represented minority students. We recently abandoned standardized SAT testing as part of the UC directive. We’ve established partnerships with community colleges and four-year degree programs in the California State University system to recruit transfer students. And we offer generous financial aid and scholarships to support under-represented and first-generation students.
Overall, it is not affirmative action, but a strong and persistent commitment to diversity, equity and inclusion that matters.
Moving forward, what now?
Milem: Despite this devastating ruling and the backlash against diversity in schools and colleges, it is clear to me that educators must take a much more active role in addressing both the quality of education delivered for an increasingly diverse nation and the ongoing power of race, class, gender, immigrant status and sexual orientation in shaping life chances in our society. We must do the difficult work to enact diversity on our college campuses so that we are able to achieve its benefits, but more importantly, so that we can finally achieve what to date has been one of our nation’s most elusive goals — educational equity.
Lien: One possible bright side of the recent court decision is to compel people to seek solutions to the root cause of racial and ethnic inequality, to invest in the infrastructure of K–12 education and to find alternative and less controversial measures to help achieve the goal of diversity, equality and inclusivity. The UC system — and especially UCSB — has a head start in this, but it’s far from enough. It is not sufficient to push for teaching a more diverse version of the nation’s racial and ethnic history. The key is to teach and learn American history critically and help students see that the system still largely sustains white privilege and condones racial inequality in contemporary society.
Affirmative action was addressing a symptom rather than the problem itself – what we should be addressing is why certain subsections of our youth aren’t performing as well in elementary through high school. Fix that and affirmative action isn’t necessary.
Totally agree! Let’s solve racism! First let’s make sure the public schools in marginalized communities have the same amount of funding as those in the wealthy communities. Let’s also make sure these children are fed and provided with the same resources (tutors, sports, music, extra circulars, childcare!) so they can learn as well as the upper class white children. Then let’s make sure their parents are earning livable wages and afforded with proper childcare options, sick leave, vacation, etc. so they can be their best selves to show up for their kids. And let’s make higher education free so lower/middle income families arent saddled with debt while trying to obtain better jobs and continued education. Once we do that after a few decades of hopefully stabilizing the massive inequities in this country, we should see things start to level out! Great idea Voice, love it!
The mid to lower classes need to pay more in taxes because there are not enough rich people to pay for all this:
“let’s make sure the public schools in marginalized communities have the same amount of funding as those in the wealthy communities. Let’s also make sure these children are fed and provided with the same resources (tutors, sports, music, extra circulars, childcare!) so they can learn as well as the upper class white children. Then let’s make sure their parents are earning livable wages and afforded with proper childcare options, sick leave, vacation, etc. so they can be their best selves to show up for their kids. And let’s make higher education free so lower/middle income families arent saddled with debt while trying to obtain better jobs and continued education.”
How much do you (edhat socialist reader) pay your gardener and housekeeper? Do you pay them for missed days due to illness and do you pay them when they go on vacation? Or do you pay them cash under the table, personal check, no sick pay, no vacation?
SB Surfer, all races suffer under classism, not just minorities. When looking at disparities relating to race, look at the racial makeup of lower class children in large metropolitan areas vs rural areas. It’s the large metropolitan areas that are failing the lower class worse than the rural areas simply because the proportion of minorities in big cities is higher than rural areas, and cities contain more people, so it’s easy to point to racism as the issue when it’s really classism.
The opposition to school choice is a good example of this. Why force people who don’t have the means to attend private or move districts, into a school that is failing their child? How school choice became a “right wing” thing and not embraced by the progressives long ago is astounding to me (hint, they care more about the political power of public sector unions than the actual children in their district).
Actually, it’s a here or there choice, is it not?.
It’s pretty simple – private schools reject people of color, denying them their choice. But, you knew that.
White flight? Why would people of color and minorities not take “flight” as well given the same opportunity? If they don’t, that is there choice. Please articulate your point in more detail @4:23
School choice is a good example of con attempts to facilitate white flight, rather than any attempt at all to improve education.
Hahaha Voice. You don’t really want to understand another perspective, you just want to debate why you think your perspective is correct. No one here has time to explain racism and all the inequities that come with it in this country. Oh well, maybe some day you’ll take it upon yourself to seek some education on the topic.
Don’t expect much. Deeply ingrained willful ignorance is apparent.
What a crock of bullpuckey!
@1:59 our problems are not racism but classism. Those that benefit from classism want you believing it’s racism. They own the news, media and social media companies so it’s easy to manipulate people who lack critical thinking skills and believe the media is honest, unbiased and for some reason not a for profit enterprise. Politicians want you to keep to believing it’s racism because it appeases their donors ( the beneficiaries of classism) and it makes it easier to win your vote.
So those that benefit from these classist systems just happen to be white? And those who suffer just happen to be minorities? The stats and research says race has a something to do with it, but go ahead with your single minded viewpoint.
Edney, post some studies/numbers/research that show a tax hike on the 1% and corporations would not provide the above services whereas a tax hike on the poor and middle class would.
You know the saying about blood and stones, right?
So you can’t articulate your point, it’s simply racism cuz the tv said so…. And now private schools are discriminating ? Based on what? Oh, cuz social media said so?
@VOR, not 4:23, but one reason why people of color do not take “flight” is resources. Just look at the results of opening up GATE at Washington. About a dozen years ago, they changed the system to test ALL 2nd graders (not just parent/teacher requests) AND they changed the lottery system to no longer give priority to Washington students.
Have we seen the expected increase in the number of students of color in that GATE program? No. Why not? One reason is that families of color are much less likely to have the resources to drive their children across town 2x a day, while the mid to upper-middle class families have no problem doing this.
By pushing “school choice” without the additional bussing resources – you are essentially leaving poor students and disabled students (who never have “school choice”) where they are, with zero choices an no resources.
Does this Supreme Court ruling have implications beyond college admissions? Will racial discrimination in hiring and the awarding of contracts also be considered illegal going forward?
Yes (part 1) and no (part 2). This court is intent on making discrimination legal, at all kinds of levels.
How is the court trying to make racial discrimination “legal at all kinds of levels?” They literally just ruled that racial discrimination is illegal. Also, what other impacts will the ruling have beyond college admissions? It seems like it may put a stop to racial discrimination in employment and other areas too.
They’re following the current crazy-con mantra of removing rights on all levels, just in case you’ve been following the playbook instead of looking closely at the results.
The right to discriminate? That’s not a right. The right to an abortion? That right was given to the voters of each to determine for themselves (which should have been a federal law but decades of Dem presidents refused to take up the legislation to do so, especially Obama who ran on codifying then said it “was the highest legislative priority” when they had full control of the house and senate.what rights are being taken away?
You’re just repeating the current crazy left mantra “they’re taking away our rights!” What rights are did they take away?
See? You’re not paying attention. Or, more likely, practicing willful ignorance.
See? You’re not paying attention.
The previous law required discrimination
Affirmative action isn’t just, and that’s why it got shot down by the Supreme Court.
And in the Originalist interpretation of the Constitution, slavery is legal. What might the current set of reactionaries on the court say about that?
Affirmative action is an attempt to compensate for the systemic racism in our country, until such time as all races get equal educational resources, which hasn’t happened yet.
Clarence got his.
Clarence EARNED his.
Assuming, of course, that you misthreaded your reply to an earlier comment, as is your wont.
Sure doesn’t seem that way, based on his desire for handouts from billionaires.
LOL, he’s just another corporate puppet, taking corrupt handouts from his billionaire buddies with one hand and giving the American people a middle finger with his other hand. Not surprised you lick those boots.
Anything that involves the government spending tax money to help people in need is under threat by the troglodytes, who don’t understand civilization.
Fact – Clarence Thomas got into Yale thanks to Affirmative Action.
https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-clarence-thomas-go-yale-under-affirmative-action-policy-1810180
I think that’s part of the problem: Thomas believes his success is tainted because people assume he got where he is just because he’s Black. So he’s bound and determined that no one else gets that opportunity.
Does anyone here actually think Thomas became a Supreme Court Justice because of Affirmative Action?
Anybody who has followed his career knows for sure.
This article is certainly bringing the racists out of the woodwork. Affirmative action is an attempt to redress the ongoing racially-based inequities in education in our nation. Of course it’s a target for the reactionaries – it doesn’t benefit corporations.
I know this sounds whack but, how about we educate the people who aren’t able to pass the “test” to get into higher ed?.
Aren’t they the people that need the most help?
Especially when they will become a part of society.
F affirmative action for me because I think there is a huge amount of kids, teen and young adults that got cheated out of their education.
Regardless of “color”.
THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO NEED EDUCATION.
NOT the educated that was able to learn in their youth.
Fun Fact! The majority of those kids who got “cheated out of their education” are minorities, aka people of color. Universities and students cannot thrive when it’s all wealthy white kids.
Have you picked up a history book and looked at what happened to non-white people in America the last 150 years?
SbSurfer, they were cheated out of their education not because of racism but because of classism. our public education system that is failing many of our nations children
People like to compare USA with European countries where tuition to public university is free, but hey all have very rigorous standards for that tuition free education that most SBUSD students could not qualify for.
SBHS students graduate at a rate of 91% woo hoo. But wait. Only 31% of SBHS graduates pass for advanced placement at the community college level, which at this point is dumbed down simply what high school standard used to be in the 1970’s. Advanced placement at this low standard does not meet the European standard for free tuition or even admission. European standards for free tuition are entirely merit based
Merit based assessments have merit when you don’t have disparity in the educational opportunities earlier in the process. Civilized countries aren’t dealing as much with systemic racism and economic inequity.
Yet again Voice you are ignoring the fact that the majority of low income families in underperforming schools are non-white. You can’t keep calling it ONLY classism when there are other factors at play. Baaa Baa Baaa to you.
Those disparities are a result of a failing public education system that traps low income families in underperforming schools, not racism. Your constant clinging to racism being the problem is exactly what the politicians and beneficiaries of classism want you to believe so you’re easier to control, and it’s working really well for them. Sheep are easy to herd.
Um, what? Advanced placement classes in high school now are far more rigorous than HS classes were in the 1970s. Source: I have many many siblings who graduated in the 1970s, and I lived through the 1970s.
I think most people, regardless of what they say in public or on internet forums, knew that it was only a matter of time before Affirmative Action (AA) would be shut down. Justice Thomas may have benefited from AA, but he had everything necessary to be accepted to Yale on merit alone. Simply disagreeing with a decision made by the SCOTUS should not send anyone into a permanent “tailspin”….but that does happen all too often. A number of my family members probably have benefited from AA, but did suffer the typical “you don’t deserve to be here and the only reason you are here is because of this and that.” It’s interesting that many applications for professional schools require a photo…..hmmmm..a photo.
I slightly agree to affirmative action if it was relative to the population distribution. There are 76.3% caucasian people. 6% Asian. 13.4% African-American. 18.7% Hispanic. A comparable diversity in percentage would be fair. However, I still think we should educate the best and the brightest!
Do you really want a pilot who became a pilot because he was 105th in the class but needed to get the job because of his race? Asians should certainly not be punished because they have such a strong education ethic. I think our education system is basically dead. I think in the future, AI will teach kids. Those that want to learn will and those that want to goof off will. If you want a better life, take advantage of the free education this country offers. Kids around the world would do anything for that opportunity.
A lot.
How so, basic armchair expert?
Oh, wait. You’ve added a criterion – achievement – that is often denied to the underprivileged. And not everyone gets called in for an interview.
What’s your next dodge?
Talking with each individual, that’s how. You asked. Character and achievement, regardless of race.
9:36 – The free education this country offers? I guess you haven’t been following the whole student loan crisis and the fact that higher education in this country has been monetized.
Most civilized countries do offer free higher education, because they realize that an educated populace benefits everyone. We don’t.
The word you wanted was who’s, for who is. You’d have flunked the essay test.
Your 8:35 comment was just another deflection.
It’s a relatively simple question you’re dodging:
Given that all applicants aren’t afforded an interview, how do you judge character, given that achievement is often denied to minorities by systemic racism?
It is odd and extremely unfair that Asians have been the primary victims of racial discrimination in college admissions. Just because of the color of their skin, they have been systematically denied admission despite superior qualifications. It boggles the mind this type racism persisted all the way into 2023. Perhaps colleges will finally live up to Dr. King’s dream that everyone should be judged by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin.
What does content of character have to do with denial of scholastic opportunities?
CHIP you must think we live in a meritocracy. The fact of the matter is – it’s not 1970 anymore, or even 1990. Elite colleges have many many times (10x? 20x?) the number of qualified applicants than spots. If it’s 10x, that means 90% of the qualified applicants don’t get in. If Asian American and Caucasian students are the majority of applicants, they will be the majority of rejected students.
Thus, what we have now is a system in which the top 5 UC schools and the top 2 Cal State schools are essentially elite schools – rejecting a large percentage of applicants.
I mean, a huge amount of this is simply math. I know many HS students with top grades, all APs, high (or perfect) SAT scores, and these students do not get into the elite schools, nor do many of them get in to even UCSB or UCSD – because now due to numbers, these schools are “elite”. These students are qualified, but didn’t get in, because there’s not enough space. Period.
Did any of the commenters bother to read the interview? Perhaps we should give some credibility to the local experts who study and teach the topic. Both of them are pro affirmative action by the way.
So you all are criticizing the UC system and CA rules that have been law since the 90’s? Because in CA, the US Supreme Court simply upheld CA law
Not quite, but nice try.
Total red herring. The current decision is less than ideal, as is the CA decision. It isn’t a contest.
UCSB Scholars too uneducated to realize the Supreme Court changes nothing in the UC system:
” California law has banned affirmative action since 1996 when it passed Proposition 209. So for schools like Berkeley, the court’s ruling does not represent much of a change.”
Daniel Farber is a law professor at UC Berkeley, where he teaches and writes about constitutional law and environmental law. His most recent book is “Contested Ground: Understanding the Limits of Presidential Power.”
Faber notes:
“Since 1978, the U.S. Supreme Court has allowed universities to use affirmative action as a tool to increase racial diversity, but on Thursday the court slammed the door on this practice, holding that it violates the Constitution.
The decision is extremely controversial, and there is much to be said about the court’s reasoning. But for present purposes, we should focus on a narrower question: the decision’s impact in California.”
“At state universities like UC Berkeley, the immediate impact should be small. But private schools like Stanford will be heavily affected.
The reason is straightforward: California law has banned affirmative action since 1996 when it passed Proposition 209. So for schools like Berkeley, the court’s ruling does not represent much of a change. No doubt scholars will be scouring the opinion to see if any details of the process need to change, but basically the court has imposed on schools nationally the same rules that already applied in California. ”
For private schools, the impact will be broader because they were not subject to California’s ban on affirmative action. If they accept any form of federal funding, they’ll have to comply with the new Supreme Court decision. This will probably mean adopting something like the application process used across the University of California system.
Nationwide, it changes a lot, and that’s what matters. The fact that CA made a mistake, too, is beside the point.
When the schools in California ” abandoned standardized SAT testing as part of the UC directive” they made it clear that admission by merit was over. Ironic that one of the people quoted here is Asian, since statistically if admissions WERE solely by merit the law and medical schools would be overwhelmingly filled with Asians. Even first-generation ESL Asians outperform other races, and we can speculate if that is because their “culture” puts a priority on hard work and study for school or if they are a superior race. Ouch!
There is some question whether SAT scores accurately assess ability, and whether they are good predictors of success in college. Apparently there are some very expensive SAT prep classes that can greatly enhance one’s scores. SAT scores may not actually assess merit.
Agree with AHCH, standardized tests don’t accurately reflect intelligence, comprehension, capability, etc. It’s like life all tattoo artists had to take an IQ test, I wonder how many artists we’d have left?
Data? Still waiting. Data comes from scientific studies, not news articles. But hey, when you came up with “Advanced placement classes in high school now are far more rigorous than HS classes were in the 1970s. Source: I have many many siblings who graduated in the 1970s, and I lived through the 1970s.”…when there actually WERE NONE (thanks for now rewinding that part of your original bogus comment), I think you lost me dude.
BasicMisInfo – I took AP tests in the early 70s. I’m sure there are many others here who did. But, that myopic view from the armchair must make most of the world seem lost.
Not even. Watering down high school achievement with A’s and B’s for everyone and no SAT’s is a total mistake. 4.0 has become the new 3.0 GPA. The local School Districts – the Administrators, not the teachers – are looking to make everyone look good. In the end, a losing strategy for society and individual kids. It sucks to get a C, D, or heaven forbid an F. I get it, but rubber stamping is even worse.
I’d like to hear exactly how LETMEGO can show support for the statement about AP classes now vs. 40/50 years ago, implying that high school is getting MORE rigorous. Really, I’m interested. Tell us.
Well, there’s plenty of data. Note: I said that there’s a LOT more rigor in AP classes now compared to 40-50 years ago, because those classes were just not available. I attended 2 high schools in the 80s, and the 2 schools combined had exactly ONE AP class. I see what my HS student is taking now (I’ve lost count of how many APs), and these classes are all quite a bit more advanced than the classes available in the 1980s. With the possible exception of AP English Literature, but my kid hasn’t taken that yet.
https://www.businessinsider.com/high-school-harder-earlier-generation-2011-12
https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/12th-graders-took-harder-courses-and-got-higher-gpas-but-test-scores-fell-what-gives/2022/03#:~:text=The%20average%20high%20school%20graduate,a%20new%20federal%20transcript%20study.
I would agree that in NON-AP level classes, the rigor is lacking compared to “back in the day” (by the way, get off my lawn). However, it wasn’t uncommon for students to fall through the cracks back then too. Disabled students were never mainstreamed, and one of my relatives is 75 and really cannot read. Graduated from high school, very poor reading skills. They just kept passing him.