A Santa Ynez couple has been arrested for their participation in the deadly attack on the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021.
Karen and Robert Jones are being charged with four federal offenses including entering and remaining in a restricted building; disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building; disorderly conduct in a Capitol building; and parading, demonstrating, or picketing in a Capitol building.
Karen Jones is a two-time candidate for county supervisor who currently serves as president of the Santa Ynez Valley Community Services District, is the founding president at the Santa Ynez Valley Opportunity Shop, and previously served on the Board of Directors of the Santa Ynez Valley Airport Authority (SYVAA).
She was was taken into custody on December 14 in Austin, Texas while her husband, Robert Jones, was arrested the same day in Los Angeles .
The Independent’s Tyler Hayden was the first to publish information on this story in 2022 along with photos of Karen and Robert Jones inside the U.S. Capitol as part of the pro-Trump insurrection to stop the certification of Joe Biden’s legitimate presidential election win.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) identified Jones’ using cell phone information, closed circuit television (CCTV) surveillance from inside the Capitol building, and opensource video footage, per the criminal complaint.
The couple flew from Los Angeles to Washington D.C. on January 5, 2021 and returned on January 8, 2021, according to the FBI.
The criminal complaint provided images showing Karen Jones on the east steps of the U.S. Capitol during the insurrection while participating in an “open mic” session.
“Hi, I’m Karen Jones. I’m from Calabasas, California – Home of the Reagan Ranch – and I’m very proud to be here. I was in the first wave up the stairs. I lucked out. Thank you to all the people who carried me in the crowd. Took a little pepper spray. I didn’t think I’d ever be sprayed by cops in my own country. I support the police, but I’d like everyone to please join me in saying the Pledge of Allegiance,” said Jones.
According to the FBI complaint, both Karen and Robert Jones approached the U.S. Capitol from the east side and advanced with a larger crowd that breached the barriers into the building. They walked through the doors at 3:01 p.m. and entered the Rotunda Lobby.
Capitol Police entered and directed protesters to leave the restricted area, the Jones’ exited the Rotunda and remained in the Rotunda Lobby. At 3:28 p.m., they exited the building through the Upper East Side doorway, according to the complaint.
Karen and Robert Jones are being represented by local attorney Robert Sanger and are scheduled to virtually appear before a U.S. Magistrate Judge on January 2, 2024.
Anyone who participated in the 1/6 attack should be charged and punished. Those who feel otherwise are not patriots.
Have you ever heard of the First Amendment? Those who disagree are communists..
Wait, so I can show up at your house, break your windows, attack cops who show up to defend your property, take a shit on your living room floor, steal “souvenirs” from your office and that’s all protected by the 1st amendment? Cool.
Why is it that so many trump cult members who claim to be patriots literally don’t understand their own rights under the constitution?
The First Amendment does not protect violent activity. Those engaged in riotous conduct – breaking windows, vandalizing the Capitol and its contents, assaulting officers, using bear spray, etc. – can’t invoke the First Amendment as a defense to these criminal acts.
Alex Anon, you’re both right, and thank you for describing the illegal activities that day in an accurate manner rather then the made-up narrative others here embrace.
Lock them up!
Sure glad these desperados are captured! What a disgusting sham! Granted, these local folks had NO business trespassing or entering the Capitol, even though they were encouraged to enter by DC Police. Yes, they should be punished. But these two were trying to overthrow the government?
The article mentions “the deadly attack,” ya sure, you mean a police officer’s tragic death from an apparent heart attack? Or the death of an unarmed Airforce Veteran protester being shot and killed by DC Police for entering through a window?
No, this was a setup from the get go! Pelosi allowed this to happen by having an inadequate Police presence. The Congressional investigation into J6 to follow, was nothing more than a Hollywood scripted con, perpetrated by liars.
Now we see denying Trump to enter an election in Colorado, when he has NEVER been charged or convicted of
insurrection!
The reason? Because the Dems know they are going to lose the election!
Do we see a rush to prosecute left wing Goon Squads who burned down our cities under the sham of racial justice? Oh, hell no!
Folks, the modern Democratic Party is nothing more than a criminal enterprise and the tables are turning in November!
Led by an 80 year old incompetent figurehead, Biden and his crime family may very well find himself in Orange! Let’s hope so, the evidence is mounting in his impeachment. As for Kamala, well I won’t even go there, other than to say, she is a disaster and the Dems know it!
Ok Boomer
“Boomers built this wonderful country.
Touched a nerve with you huh?
“Indoctrinated Generation” will be what history will call you and yours.
“Boomers built this wonderful country.” Boomers were here in 1776?
That was a different “wonderful country”.
Boomers built? LOL. You guys rode the coattails of the people that fought in WW2. All you have really done is destroy the middle class.
In all fairness it’s the people they elected who destroyed the middle class. Back then there was lot more trust that our elected officials were acting in their constituents best interest.
“They voted for that.”
Now, now, Alex. Personal accountability and responsibility for one’s own choices/words/actions is not one of the Conservatives’ core values. Oh, wait…….
Who are “You guys”?
I’m not ignorant enough to choose sides, unlike you.
Having said that, you didn’t build anything.
Know why I know? As an ex employer your personality wouldn’t get you past the front door.
Yawn.
Feeling okay this morning, Tejano? Take your meds, read some articles on the subject and learn some facts, then re-read your comment. lt’s a bit disjointed…
“they were encouraged to enter by DC Police” – you sure? Doesn’t sound like you pal, Karen, was: “I didn’t think I’d ever be sprayed by cops in my own country.”
“The article mentions “the deadly attack,” ya sure, you mean a police officer’s tragic death from an apparent heart attack?” – Yes, the very same.
“unarmed Airforce Veteran protester being shot and killed by DC Police for entering through a window” – You mean the criminal who was part of an insurrection.
“Pelosi allowed this to happen by having an inadequate Police presence.” – and the “blue lives matter” crowd still attacked the police as they broke into the Capitol in order to stop the election. Regardless of whether there were enough cops, they CHOSE to attack. It was THEIR fault people died.
LOL you Jan 6 deniers are a funny bunch!
You are spot on.
All those riots after George Floyd with destruction and violence and theft. But walking up the Capitol steps is a crime…
Just because the word “insurrection’ is used, does not make it true.
Deadly? Only because a guard shot an innocent woman.
I am a baby boomer too. MAYBE we have some wisdom under our belts.
“walking up the Capitol steps” Let’s try reading the whole article.
Gross szq. Comparing apples to oranges just shows your lack of critical thinking.
SbTejano, your tinfoil hat is a little crooked.
Cry more traitor.
“No, this was a setup from the get go! Pelosi allowed this to happen by having an inadequate Police presence.” The Speaker of the House does not oversee security of the U.S. Capitol, the Capitol Police Board does, and the Speaker does not oversee the Board
“NEVER been charged or convicted of insurrection!” Where does the 14th amendment to the constitution say “charged or convicted? The actual language is “shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion”
“Let’s hope so, the evidence is mounting in his impeachment. ” Hasn’t there been an ongoing republican investigation for two years that has brought zero evidence? Saying let’s hope is priceless.
Wow, it amazes me that people actually think like you do. Crazy. Especially how it’s Pelosi’s fault.
That’s OK. A person I know very well blames nearly everything on Michelle Obama. Especially the school scores. Seriously, Michelle Obama.
SBTejano: encouraged to enter by DCPolice? Have some more Coolaid!
Another well connected criminal.
Karen and her husband should have just had sex in a Congressional office and then video taped it and sent it to their friends…OR brought in some Cocaine and partied in the Rotunda instead of simply going into a public building and carrying signs protesting.
“simply going into a public building” – LOL that’s not what happened and you know it. They attacked police officers (probably while waving those silly blue lives flags) and broke into (they did not just “go into”) the US Capitol building for the purpose of interfering with a Presidential election.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Screw around and find out. Actions have consequences. Personal accountability. You know, all that stuff you Cons love to say…….
If they didn’t break in, why was Ashli Babbet shot? If they didn’t break in, why were cops trying to stop them? If they didn’t break in, why were they using flag poles and other heavy objects to smash the windows?
Everyone knows what happened. You’re just in denial and have been duped by the far right conspiracies. Why? Because you are “lacking critical thinking skills.”
Tresspasing violently into the capitol building by a mob of stupid people is definitely criminal. Not an insurrection where they wanted to overturn the Government. These fools are paying for their mob mentality. BUT at no time did Trump call for a riot, or insurrection. He said plain as day to go down to the capitol and peacefully protest. If not, please furnish us with the exact quote from Trump that called for violent rioting or insurrection.
Trump’s words at the Jan 6 rally
“‘We won this election, and we won it by a landslide'” Categorically false
“‘We will stop the steal'”
“‘We will never give up. We will never concede. It doesn’t happen'”
“You don’t concede when there’s theft involved. Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore.”
“”You will have an illegitimate president. That is what you will have, and we can’t let that happen.”
“‘If you don’t fight like hell you’re not going to have a country anymore'”
“‘We are going to the Capitol'”
Sounds exactly what you will be saying after Jan 6 2025
Maga boomers believing polls and thinking Trump has won over minorities, legal immigrants, suburban women is priceless. Please keep connected to your current media eco system.
stop with your facts. They don’t care.
“I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.” – also Trumps words at the rally.
Oh cool, he said “peacefully” once so that totally negates the fact that he waited for hours, watching them storm the building, attack police and break windows (oh and building a gallows for Mike Pence) before he told them to ease up………
Voice yes those were also Trump’s words – and Chalf (who I was replyaing to) had already stated that…. but thank you for being the arbiter of this conversation.
” Not an insurrection where they wanted to overturn the Government. ” – Then what else would you call breaking into the Capitol for the purpose of overturning the election? Let’s not forget why they were there. Intent/motive is important.
Cute GIF, Champ. Now be an honest adult and tell me how my comment was delusional.
Are you seriously saying the whole protest and subsequent attack and illegal entry into the Capitol building was NOT to do exactly what the name of the rally was, “Stop the Steal?”
You’re delusional because you still think it was an insurrection and they were seriously trying to overturn an election at the capitol building (which doesn’t even make sense, it isn’t even possible).
VOR The rally was literally called “Stop The Steal”.
It was literally called “Defund the Police”, but oh of course they were talking figurately, when the other side says something they mean it literally.
WHIPLASH! Ouch, that whatabout was hard!
Be careful, buddy!
What about, deflect, gaslight – typical Voice of Reason comment – Sea gull style of debate – drop a white turn and fly away.
* drop a white turd.
yeah, that’s just a lie.
They absolutely were going in there with the intent to disrupt the process and some were even planning to capture (and who knows what else) congress members.
You keep on chugging that propaganda juice and embracing verifiable lies as “facts”
If the people who broke in to the buildings and attacked the cops on that day weren’t there to try and disrupt the transfer of power then exactly why were they there?
Alex – I think they only wanted to poop and smoke weed in the capital. Other than that it was a sight seeing trip and craft fair with the proud boys.
Crickets…… of course
Got real quiet. They are all at a promise dance with their daughters.
Disrupt sure, insurrection/take over/coup and install Trump as our dear leader is all BS. and FYI, they didn’t break into the buildings, they are on video be let in and escorted through. Have you not see the videos from inside? Not all skeptical as to why they were released recently rather than with all the other footage “insurrection” footage rigth after the fact?
“they didn’t break into the buildings” – liar.
See: Ashli Babbit
So “they” were let in? Why would they need to try to murder police by bashing metal fire extinguishers on the faces of officers? Why did the republicans need to stab officers with flag poles if they were “let in”? Why did republicans need to shoot bear spray at police if they were “let in”. Why did republicans need use bear spray on police if they were “let in”?
Here is some footage of the republicans being “let in”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmtL27dqz6w
It is despicable that anyone would advocate this behavior – or suggest that these thugs were “let in”. This is what the NAZls did on their rise to power.
Don’t play their stupid video game style of conversation.
Don’t support your gaslighting that Jan 6 was a sight seeing tour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmtL27dqz6w
Chalf, you know very well what he intended. The man isn’t dumb enough to have put it out there in 100% clear terms.
hahahahahahaha! Brill
Because that’s the same as trying to overthrow our free and fair elections? Nice try.
Republicans = you break a law you do the time
Also Republicans = you break the law you shouldn’t suffer the same consequences if you are a republican.
More delusion….
you misspelled “Facts”
Voice – Karen and Robert Jones are being charged with four federal offenses including entering and remaining in a restricted building; disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building; disorderly conduct in a Capitol building; and parading, demonstrating, or picketing in a Capitol building. Why don’t you go troll the people saying they were only practicing their 1st Amendment Rights and tell them they are delusional.
And?
And? Do you need an interpreter?
Having sex in a closet in a public building isn’t illegal.
It also sounds kind of fun.
What, no joke about that’s were Republicans like to have sex? You’re slacking.
Yeah – Mike Johnson sitting too close to his daughter at a promise dance is a GOP idea of “fun”.
You know, I think I know that guy, Jones. If I’m not mistaken, he’s involved in restoring old British sports cars in the Santa Ynez area. Maybe a different, Robert Jones?
I thought this was an interesting read:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/new-details-emerge-showing-secrecy-from-white-house-on-planned-march-on-jan-6/ar-AA1lKBXM?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=e2487a6042dc4360a6588f885c86aacc&ei=80
Thanks for posting that, Bicyclist!
I’m glad these sick and depraved terrorists have been apprehended and anticipate their health will fade in jail as a consequence of uprising against our democracy.
Terrorists? wow, chugging the koolaid.
They will lose a life force in prison that they could have sustained by living like a normal human being.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmtL27dqz6w
It truly is a bummer to see comments from neighbors that have lost touch with reality. I know these people exist, but it’s tough to think these are people I see every day and have interactions with. MAGA truly is a cult, their followers don’t think reality is real, facts aren’t facts, and only 1 guy holds the truth. All of these conspiracy theorists might very well qualify them to be admitted to mental health facilities against their will for their delusions, something they so often support for the homeless.
ANON – 100%. Probably one of the saddest results of the MAGA phenomenon, is seeing just how many of our neighbors were quietly racists, homophobes, anti-facts until they were given the green light to go public with their hate and fanaticism.
I have yet to see Biden flags or paintings of Biden being blessed by Jesus whilst wrapped in the US flag and clutching an AR-15. I have yet to see Dems kill in the name of Biden. This is not a Dem/Repub thing anymore. This is a cult vs. reality.
When people fervently support and would even die for a man (questionable) who says “”I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn’t lose any voters, OK?” then we have a cult, not just a “political party.”
I am honestly terrified for our country. If this man attains power once again, the USA is lost.
Your statement is ignorant and defamatory… I thought only adults were allowed to comment on this site?
SOCAL – you clearly don’t understand the word “defamatory.” As an “adult,” you should understand terms before you post them.
Also, it’s absolutely true.
Sac, this “socal local” person is a full blown cult member. No use in trying to talk sense to him. Here are some tips from Psychology Today on how to address cult members:
“Since you are concerned about their well-being, stop arguing, calling them names, or cutting them off. Instead, try to engage in respectful, warm, regular communication. This will serve as a bridge, helping them to start thinking rationally.”
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/freedom-mind/202104/the-definitive-guide-helping-people-trapped-in-cult
I will see you in the water. Where you be at tomorrow?
“I will see you in the water. Where you be at tomorrow?” Stalker much?
Nah thanks man. I stick to the good vibes of the ocean and stay away from the kooks. Too many bad vibes.
LOL, SoCal Kook, no one will be in the water tomorrow. See you at Ed’s when it gets good though.
You don’t understand the concept of defamation.
More on than… my iq is 156. I have more legal knowledge than you know. You clearly are a cultist as SBfoamieboarder suggests. It is sad that SB has become such a melting pot of communists. Trump 2024..
“I have more legal knowledge than you know. ” – but not enough to know what the elements of a defamation cause of action would be. Not even close.
Hey, know what? My iq is 23943. I live in an underground mansion that is 500,000 sq ft. I have solid gold fingernails too! The anonymous internet is an amazing place, ain’t it?
Nobody with an IQ above room temperature would post what the sociopathic local does.
Their projection is strong…
That doesn’t even make sense. Do you have a list of one-liners you type out whether they apply or not?
“More on than… my iq is 156. I have more legal knowledge than you know” Your grammar, capitalization, sentence structure, and punctuation say otherwise.
Bottomline. Trump, a poor choice is still better than Biden, a horrible choice. and here we are with no good candidates.. Biden is all but done. Newsome is the worst choice of the bunch.. I guess its Trump again.
This is your freedom to vote for whoever you choose. Although it’s looking less likely that he’ll be on the ballot so you might have to settle for Haley or DeSantis.
Ah yes, removing candidates from the ballot for a crime they weren’t even charged with let alone convicted. That how we save Democracy people!
Maybe find a new candidate? I love watching the far right cesspool swirl around Trump, and try to defend the actions of their heroes on Jan 6.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmtL27dqz6w
He’s not my candidate. You should probably stop lumping everyone who disagrees with you as part of the far right cesspool swirling around Trump.
“He’s not my candidate. You should probably stop lumping everyone who disagrees with you as part of the far right cesspool swirling around Trump.” VOR, Show the class where I said he was your candidate?
VOICE – honestly just curious, who is your candidate?
And please…. if it talks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, writes like a duck, etc……
He’s not your candidate??
You mean there’s someone crazier than Trump?
I’m glad that those involved in the attack on government on Jan 6 will continue to be held accountable.
I guess you missed the riots the rest of the year. Had you saw those you would know that Jan 6 was the most peaceful of all…
So are you saying Ashley Babbit and the horde should have been allowed to continue past that barrier so the hordes could assassinate elected officials? Which part of Jan 6 was peaceful? Taking dumps in the lobby? Attacking police officers with flag poles and fire extinguishers and bear spray was peaceful?
Violence during a riot against racist violence by the police is far different from violence during an attack on the Capitol based 100%, solely on LIES.
The election was never “stolen.”
Police violence and racism against the black community is well documented and has been happening for hundreds of years.
It’s important to understand that very important distinction when “comparing” the 2 events.
THIS! This is exactly why you and most of the lefties are absolute hypocrites. “It’s okay when we riot because we have a good reason too.”
How is that hypocritical? I never said it wasn’t OK to riot for a good reason.
Lies about a stolen election is not a “good reason.”
And if you honestly think that those lies are just as “good a reason” as racism and murder by the police, then you’re sick…..deeply sick. Also a racist.
VOR – what is the article about?
Sure, some of those other riots had violence and that is against the law. Those caught were prosecuted, even the members of the extremist right wing groups who tried to blame their violence on BLM protestors. Sadly you are incorrect to think that protests centered around racial equity is the same as violence and threats attempting to overturn our fair elections and democracy.
Outrageous that you all support destroying 1A. These people did nothing but show up to protest. The fact that in SB there are such people that do not support human rights is appalling. Who wants to join me in a protest for these people that are being politically charged?
Dude. These are federal charges caught on camera and with own self admission. They unlawfully breached the building. They were standing among a group of people who beat police officers while chanting USA. They’re being charged for what they did with a mountain of evidence: entering and remaining in a restricted building; disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building; disorderly conduct in a Capitol building; and parading, demonstrating, or picketing in a Capitol building.
“These people did nothing but show up to protest.” Actually, if you read the article, “both Karen and Robert Jones approached the U.S. Capitol from the east side and advanced with a larger crowd that breached the barriers into the building. They walked through the doors at 3:01 p.m. and entered the Rotunda Lobby. Capitol Police entered and directed protesters to leave the restricted area, the Jones’ exited the Rotunda and remained in the Rotunda Lobby. At 3:28 p.m., they exited the building through the Upper East Side doorway, according to the complaint.” Their first amendment rights ended when they joined the terrorist mob that broke barriers, assaulted police, and entered the building to disrupt a governmental proceeding.
I also want to add that she misrepresented herself as being from Calabases in a public speech therefore knew what she was doing was wrong. She also removed all her pro Trump propaganda banners and signs from her house right after. To me this means she and her husband knew what they did was illegal and attempted to not draw attention to themselves. But she found it perfectly okay to joke about her role in stand up while in Texas.
‘Deadly attack on the capitol’? Only person who was killed was Ashley Babbit’ an unarmed lady shot by Campus police’ The cop that died that night, at home, from a stroke’ had NO hematomas or contusions and the death was of from natural causes. Other than Ashley Babbit, there were zero fatalities. Stop the propaganda and please facts only. Thank you.
Ashley deserved every bit of it – she had been warned. Had she broken through, the horde would have followed and assassinated our elected officials. Are you advocating for that? A bipartisan Senate report found that at least seven people had lost their lives in connection with the Jan. 6 attack.
Good to know that there are times it’s acceptable for an office to shoot an unarmed person, the past three years said the exact opposite.
Which other times in the past three years did a mob attempt to gain entry into the only door protecting elected officials from the horde at the capital building?
Bro, it is often completely acceptable for a cop to shoot an unarmed person. Are you unfamiliar with policing in the USA?
“facts only” from the guy who refers to Palestinians as “bottom feeders,” and homeless as “lower rung of humanity”
Are you saying that because one person died during this insurrection it should not be called deadly? It’s not propaganda to state a fact. Someone died, therefore, the event was deadly.
You’d think, given the amount of reading you must had to do to come up with those theories, you’d know how to spell her name……
Hmm, Calabasas has a new resident?
Yes. My Christmas gift came early.
These people stole their play book from ISIS. Both groups use violence to institute their beliefs.: God and religion should control government. The core values of ISIS and the radical right GOP are eerily similar: Children are forced to pray in public schools, 100% focused on wars against women’s rights, Fox News is owned by the Saudi Prince and Rupert Murdock (Al Reslah TV is owned by the Saudi Prince and Rupert Murdoch), political religious leaders are filthy rich, oppose sex education, contraceptives, and homosexuality.
If you think comments here are bad, check out Facebook and Instagram. There are so many more cult members and conspiracy theories in our community than we think. I was scrolling through the instagram comments on this story and people have lost their minds and feel 100% comfortable touting conspiracies with their full names and photos attached. Plus, they’re aggressive and angry, rational minds have thought better than trying to combat their insanity. With that said, thankful for Edhat deleting the horrible comments.
ANON – that’s part of the terrifying nature of this cult. They have no problem spewing hate and racism publicly with their identities fully displayed. Their kind used to have to keep somewhat quiet to avoid ostracism (well deserved). In the last 8 years though, they’ve been following the lead of the far right and proudly showing their true colors.
I’ve lost track of how many conspiracy theories turned out to be true the past several years, the overuse and misuse of it has caused to lose all meaning. Just like fascist.
Name one.
I never excused anything, just said it can’t really happen. You can discriminate or be prejudiced against whites, but not really racist against them. Racism is treating another race as inferior.
You’re making stuff up again…. who’s “lost it” now?
Dang, you’re off the hook tonight! Calm down, regroup and try to make some sense without lying.
When the republicans suggest that Jan 6th was a moment for first amendment activities and taking a leisurely tour of the Capitol – remind them of the utter terror attacks these “law abiding citizens” spurned on law enforcement. “Trespassing” on the seat of government and trying to murder police and government officials is not sight seeing. The video is just a few moments (of many) caught on video – pure proof.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmtL27dqz6w
Anyone supporting this is not an American. Seeing that the GOP supports the lie of a “stolen election” and supports the violence against the seat of government and its sworn officers – it has become evident that the GOP is the enemy of democracy and that this organization must be dealt with sooner rather than later.
Just the GOP? I recall a prior another party harping about a “stolen election” for 4 years, same party that encouraged protests outside SCOTUS homes (illegal) and to “get up in the face” of any republican you see in public and “Please, get up in the face of some congresspeople”, “When they go low, we kick them.”“I think you need to go back and punch him [Trump] in the face”. Yeah, just that damn GOP…..
and some vidoe clips https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/democrats-physically-confont-twitter
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-examiner/
I’m going to laugh my way to the polling station and laugh some more as liberals cry when 45 becomes 47
I’m voting third party again but am kinda hoping he does just to see the heads spin. The meltdown will be even more epic than 2016.
“I’m voting third party again but am kinda hoping he (ends democracy as we know it)”. VOR that’s very adult of you.
You know who else hopes he wins? People who say this about the CO Supreme Court decision:
“This ends when we kill these f–kers,” a user wrote on a pro-Trump forum that was used by several Jan. 6 rioters.
“What do you call 7 justices from the Colorado Supreme Court at the bottom of the ocean?” asked another user. “A good start.”
“Kill judges. Behead judges. Roundhouse kick a judge into the concrete,” read a post on a fringe website. “Slam dunk a judge’s baby into the trashcan.” https://news.yahoo.com/colorado-supreme-court-justices-face-040204744.html
What wonderful company you keep.
The violence and hate of the right is frightening. That alone is why they must be kept out of power.
Still waiting on the Epstein associate list, bet there are a couple people of interest on there and then a lot of people here will be reeeeaaaally quiet
And I’m excited about shopping for a new spatula…… what’s your point?
Epstein has absolutely nothing to do with this article.
Ooh, he big mad.
Occasionally, I find myself thinking that most of our folks here in Santa Barbara are somewhat enlightened. Then I am brought back to reality by reading a posting by a local Trump supporter who thinks that the Capital Insurrection was a deep-state plot. Spouting First and Fourth Amendment rights that were never the intention of the composers of our Constitution. I am worried that the Republican Party is promoting these ideas out of self-preservation since they know they cannot win a fair election. People just do not support the kind of religious conservatism that is the current Republican credo. Trump, if elected or by force when he loses AGAIN, will end our way of life and institute a Putin-style dictatorship. Be afraid.
Enlightened!?! You have the gal to say “Trump, if elected or by force when he loses AGAIN, will end our way of life and institute a Putin-style dictatorship” in the same comment you’re worried about other people promoting crazy ideas. You have absolutely totally lost your grasp on reality and are living in full blow propaganda land if you truly believe anything like that will happen. Holy cow… and people like you calling MAGA a cult are totally blind to their own cult.
VOR – where you go one you go all don’t you? Much like you to defend the orange man’s Mein Kempf tirades.