Transients Assault Family on State Street

Report of 10 subjects fighting in the 700 block of State Street, possibly a group of transients assaulted a family.

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  1. This is going to become more and more common as conditions deteriorate downtown. I would suggest avoiding areas that are occupied by drug addicts and the mentally ill. In particular, I would strongly suggest keeping children away from the downtown area. The sight of people suffering and living in filth on the street is extremely disturbing for young eyes. Finally, I would like to remind everyone of the risk of being exposed to disease. Drug addicts and the mentally ill live in filthy unsanitary conditions and are unable to care for themselves. Diseases spread rapidly among this population, and this could become an acute problem as the corona virus begins spreading in the US. It is starting to feel more and more like we are living in some kind of zombie apocalypse…

  2. Thank goodness this street population won’t be exposed to fracking or plastic straws. Why did our Congressman Salud Carbajal turn down an opportunity to work with the Trump administration to solve this problem? What are Monique Limon and Hannah-Beth Jackson finally doing with the Mental Health Services Act (MHSA) billions of dollars that voters have already raised for years? Are they on board now with Gov Newsom, who wants to make it easier to place those with mental impairments into state funded care settings?

  3. How many people here are willing to pay an increase in their taxes to house these (and more) transients?
    How come they are called homeless until they get caught in criminal activities in which case they become ‘transients’?

  4. A source on scene told me that the family was attacked because a young boy in the family offered to buy a Transient an ice cream. The Transient went mentally violent on the kid. So it wasn’t a fight between Transients at all it was an attack on a young man who offered to buy a Transient an ice cream. The family was attacked a woman suffered a head injury as she had a gash to her head. Eight Transients were involved according to my source. That is what I got.

  5. Sounds like according to you all of the homeless, the poor and the democrats are at fault..I remember when there were more republicans than democrats on the city council and they did not do nothing about this issue either…

  6. Hey 150, your ignorance is painful. Trump’s administration never offered a plan to do anything about homelessness. There is no opportunity to work together if there is no plan. They said they would release a plan and Trump “threatened” to “take over” and “fix it”, but of course his threats just like his promises are just vapor.
    So, yeah, please explain how it’s possible to refuse to work together when there’s no plan to work together being offered. Please provide a source that Carbajal ever refused to work with Trump to solve homelessness. Not even in your alternate universe does that exist.

  7. We already agreed in 2004 to “tax ourselves” to get mentally impaired persons off the streets. What happened to that tax money raised every year – over 15 years ago? From Cal.gov: ….”The passage of Proposition 63 (now known as the Mental Health Services Act or MHSA) in November 2004, provides the first opportunity in many years for the California Department of Mental Health (DMH) to provide increased funding, personnel and other resources to support county mental health programs and monitor progress toward statewide goals for children, transition age youth, adults, older adults and families. The Act addresses a broad continuum of prevention, early intervention and service needs and the necessary infrastructure, technology and training elements that will effectively support this system.
    This Act imposes a 1% income tax on personal income in excess of $1 million. Statewide, the Act was projected to generate approximately $254 million in fiscal year 2004-05, $683 million in 2005-06 and increasing amounts thereafter. Much of the funding will be provided to county mental health programs to fund programs consistent with their local plans. ..”

  8. Roger, who has been in charge of this state after 2004, when voters agreed to tax themselves to get mentally impaired people off the streets? The problem has grown immensely from 2004 forward – did this new posst 2004 MHSA money pay for hiring more government employees, who now need an ever growing numbers of street cases just to keep their own jobs secure? Because it never got spent reducing this street population. Voters in this state stood up and said we want this to change (during the Gov. Schwarzenegger days) Billions of new tax dollars have been raised since 2004. Where did that money go and whose policies grew the street population after Schwarzenegger left office in 2008, and the Gov Jerry Brown Democrats got a super-majority in the state legislature who got to spend this new money,

  9. Gosh, I was hoping there weren’t any kids involved… This is terrible. A young kid trying to do something nice for a bum, and the bum goes crazy on the poor kid. We have got to do something to get these vagrants off the street. How many people have to get hurt by these bums before we clean up our city? And yet, nothing will be done except our politicians asking for yet even more funding for the homeless.

  10. The SB Public Library hired a private security firm to protect the library and library users. It is an entirely different there now, and when someone gets weird, several people show up and deal with it, not the library staff. Perhaps the City needs to hire this security company to police downtown so we can feel save there. It is getting down right strange and uncomfortable there. It would be terrifying to be physically attacked, and to watch a gang pick on a family.

  11. It is the fault of ACLU as well as prior spineless city councils, who all waltzed off after term limits, picked up their city pensions and left us now with their messes to clean up. ACLU is no longer noble human rights operation – it is venal partisan operation spreading urban terror that is taking ovet too many parts of our lives today. You err, violating codes of human conduct as set out in our mutual compacts with each other is illegal. Plus every human has a duty to first provide legally. for their own food and shelter. We don’t own them these fundamental human duties; they owe us to get it done on their own. Cry me a river if a “homeless” person cannot find housing in one of the most expensive locations in California.

  12. To get the change we need, at some point the city employee unions need to understand destroying our tax base and reducing their share of property tax dollars due to their reckless disregard of the vagrancy assaults, matters to them too. Declining income streams due to declining quality of life, due to city hall chronically bungling means no more money for themselves, the city employee unions. Maybe then, the city employee unions will start supporting the do-something candidates, instead of keeping this revolving door of do-nothing candidates in decision making positions. Same goes for local schools, at some point school board voters need to understand teacher union backed candidates do not support education, for even their own children. Keep employee unions at arms length and only on one side of the bargaining table. Right now city employee unions figured out how to sit on both sides of the bargaining table, and carve up the tax dollars solely for themselves. That is the Democrat’s dirty little secret and they hope you never figure this out. Too late, we know now why the system has failed us so badly for so long yet city employees make out like bandits, for life.

  13. City council suckers in for another “10 year plan to end homelessness”, claiming this time they will be more forceful cramming down solutions into NIMBY neighborhoods who oppose them. From the Independent: “(Latest ‘homeless czar) Shaffer and his colleagues got a warm reception from the mayor and council members. Councilmember Michael Jordan joked that Shaffer’s presentation sounded like “the fourth 10-year plan I’ve heard in the last 30 years.” More seriously, he said City Hall could have done a much better job inserting itself to reduce some of the neighborhood backlash that erupted in response to previous housing proposals. “Sometimes, we’re our own worst enemy,” he said. ”

  14. Back to the modern way to look at this issue: different solutions for different sub-population groups: (1) the have nots; (2) the can nots; (3) the will nots. Have nots already covered by very generous welfare safety net; can nots need to be placed in state care institutions; the will nots are 80% of the remaining problem -, they have skills and mental capacity, so it is either jail or lock down work camps.

  15. Noozhawk “The couple, both in their early 70s and from Oxnard, were walking northbound on State Street with their 13-year-old grandson when they encountered a longtime local homeless man who was collecting cans from the trash receptacles, Wagner said. Some sort of conflict occurred between the homeless man and the teen, Wagner said, and a shouting match then ensued between the man and the grandfather.
    Moments later, as the couple and teen continued on their way, a 23-year-old woman who was not involved in the original dispute attacked the couple, Wagner said. The woman — described by Wagner as an “urban traveler” who had arrived in town the previous day — punched the couple, who sustained minor injuries, although neither required hospital treatment.

  16. Looks like they were released today too. This is despicable. These “urban travelers” aka lazy, useless gutter punks, are the main problem downtown. These are usually the “aggressive” panhandlers and drug users. They are mostly “homeless” by choice, choosing to live off of others and enjoy the handouts. Get rid of them!

  17. …ask the D.A. why they were released. Ask the D.A. why shoplifters are released. Ask the D.A. why vagrants get away with pooping in the streets ( someone with a job and means would go through the court system and be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law- NOT vagrants)

  18. “Urban Traveler.” That’s rich! I’m surprised they didn’t identify her as a “boxing enthusiast” since she punched the couple. I don’t understand this mentality of denial. If we are going to have any hope of solving this problem, we are going to have to start by identifying it. These people are not “travelers,” they are not “homeless” because they can’t afford the increasing cost of living in the area, and they are not “transients.” The denial must end, these people are primarily drug addicts.

  19. Urban Travelers always …are loud…obnoxious…highly visible on “main” streets…always have $ for tats… drugs… piercings… cigs… weed…booze… these are not your wandering hippies from back in the day… Brazil is where they should go with their stupid act…they know exactly how to deal with these peeps.

  20. I was able to find pictures of these individuals online. They’re not mugshots but pictures from they’re social media. Is it ok to link they’re profiles on here? It’s 110% them so I’m not linking the wrong people.

  21. I wish someone could post the current photos of these two punks so we could keep an eye out. Today as I was coming across Micheltorena and De La Vina there were two twenty somethings (male and female) with their backpacks hanging out on the sidewalk sitting against a building. I’ve seen these two before hanging out in the parking lot at Ralph’s on Chapala. I almost called it in. I wonder if it’s the same two that assaulted the couple? I am so fed up with what has happened to our beautiful town. Our City Council has had their head in the sand for too many years. This is why my husband and I no longer go down town. We are this ” ” close to selling our home and moving out of Santa Barbara, and California. We were both born and raised in this town, and in our sixties. I feel sorry for our law enforcement having to deal with vagrants constantly! The entire State is falling apart. So sad.

  22. CA has no excuse. SB has no excuse.
    Since the 80s there have been several “collaborative initiatives “ with the county and surrounding cities. The priority in each of those has been housing first.
    So why after 40 years of “housing first” are there not enough shelters?
    Why is it that transient housing is built in the downtown corridor?
    Why has no one built a tent city on government land to house people in need?
    Why does the govt spend hundreds of thousands to millions in grant monies to research why people are homeless? Why not build housing/temporary shelters.
    Take land off Cathedral Oaks, build a tent city, bring in mobile building for a club house, medical building. Cottage could provide regular health/mental care there and people could receive three square meals/day.
    All homeless are not the same, except that they don’t have a roof over their heads.
    Those homeless that are mentally ill or will never be productive members of society should not be housed downtown and should not be allowed to interfere with law abiding, hard working citizens.
    Why do people think it’s a “right” to live in SB? It’s not, go where you can afford to live.
    Over half of the homeless pop is not from SB, they are transients who cone here for the weather, nice people and to be left alone.
    Problem is they’ve been overrunning SB and the services .
    Bottom line, laws should be enforced. To not enforce the laws unilaterally is discrimination. If a transient can piss on the street, park wherever they want, squat, drink or do drugs in public then why can’t everyone. Why do I get a ticket fir pissing in the street after going to the bowl, but ate anise the doesn’t? Discrimination.
    Bottom line, govt knows how to help, yet they choose to put money in researchers pockets despite knowing the answer for 4 decades.
    Bottom line, the lack of enforcing laws and high tolerance has attracted numerous more transients.
    Bottom line, this town is a San Fran, Seattle or LA.

  23. If anyone is confused by the lack of leadership on this issue, no need to look too far for a reason. Cathy Murillo is the reason. You elected an inept, divisive, inexperienced, financially ignorant idiot to oversee a city dangling on the precipice of bankruptcy. One that is quickly becoming a city overrun by derelicts and do-nothings. She has proven herself to be the “Worst Mayor in SB’s history”. Please send her packing. We need an experienced and capable leader to help guide us forward. Not a ‘wet noodle’ who couldn’t lead a pack of dogs out of the county shelter.

  24. Our city council is intended to be non-partisan. Party politics should play no role in local decision making, or even voter choice. So which political party locally needs to bow out of city decision making? Problem today is the Democrat party became the party of the public employee unions, and everything went downhill after that. Bloated hiring, bloated salaries and benefits, under-funded budgets, increased taxes, declining public services and failing infrastructure – that is what happened after the Democrat Party and the public sector unions went to bed togehter permanently a few decades ago in this state. You can thank the Democrat Party take-over by the public sector unions for all of this, and no one else. You can track this history right here in this city and the make-up of the city council majorities that did this to us. In the future, voters need to reject all Democrat and public employee candidates backed by public sector union money and endorsements as the very first step and get all our local boards, including our school boards, back to being independent, community oriented and non-partisan. Do not vote based upon your Democrat party endorsement handout lists. In fact, vote just the opposite until we get this incestuous Democrat-public sector union connection cleaned out of local politics permanently. To all candidates who continue to take Democrat party and public sector money, endorsements and support, take a pledge. you will recuse yourself from any voting that impacts any of these self-interested partisan groups. You will recuse yourself from any collective bargaining with those public sector groups, and their surrogate groups who sit on the other side of the bargaining table spending our tax dollars. That is how you take special partisan interests out of non-partisan local politics. Take away the special interest incentives to support certain candidates. We currently have elected council majorities spending our money, who are totally doing the bidding only of those very same public sector unions and their members who made sure they got elected for their own benefit. This must end. Voters, this is in your hands.

  25. Trump came to California and said he would use the full powers of the EPA to clean up these toxic vagrant camps unless the state and cities did something about their environmental degradation. Salud Carbajal, who claims he protects the environment did nothing and said nothing when the EPA option was put on the table. Nothing. It was his time to extend his support and prove he actually does care about the environment, pollution, toxic waste and ocean runoff degradation. Instead he comes up with some flunkie window-dressing prohibition against drilling on federal lands.

  26. Remind yourself we had very excellent alternative choices for mayor on the ballot in the last election, yet the city employee unions ganged up and made sure Murillo got elected. Local voters simply must break up the power of the city employee unions now exert over us with their poltiical war chests and disciplined election day strategies. It all starts with the Democrat Central Committee backing one candidate early in the game and then include the Independent’s poltiical endorsements acting as their all too willing hand-maidens. Though even the Independent could not bring themselves to endorse Murllio this last time, which proves this was solely the work of the public employee unions and the local Democrat party that got her elected. Voters, don’t let these very narrow special interests who only back easily manipulated Democrats, do this to us again. Look at your current city council – Murillo and friends made sure she got in additional willing, know nothing tools to carry out the public employee union agendas.

  27. This story reminds me of the fatal stabbing that happened on the Ventura pier a couple of years ago. Unfortunately, I think yesterday’s incident shows that it is only a matter of time until someone gets killed in Santa Barbara. Stay away from downtown, it’s just not safe to be there anymore! https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-ventura-stabbing-police-tactics-20180424-htmlstory.html

  28. I presented a “tent city” design to mayor Schneider..all legal & compassionate, & would have/ still would, work..
    But, it was denied without review..why?
    No $$ in the cure, only profit in the treatment.
    Boo SB gov!

  29. Noozhawk is silent about this incident. Independent is silent about this incident. NewsPress is silent about this incident. KEYT is silent about this incident. Thank you Roger and edhat for being on the front lines, without fear or favor.

  30. Lots of whining and criticizing in these posts but very little constructive advice. Not illegal to be homeless. Not illegal to be mentally ill. Not illegal to congregate in public spaces. Easy to be drug addicted without being jailed for it. At the point where their actions become illegal and dangerous to others, the police are called in. This is the society we live in, and no one as far as I know has come up with a solution to what it going on. I have no love for Murillo or Williams, but if they have not succeeded in solving these problems, they have plenty of company. I feel very sorry for the family that was involved in this incident. I personally don’t go downtown much which I know the businesses hate to hear.

  31. Seems like the only time there is a serious concern about the homeless problem is when the victims are a family or a child. How about the people who have to deal with this bs daily because they work downtown? No more studies, we know there’s a problem. Take some action, any action.
    Why does the public library need to spend their budget on hiring a private security firm. What are the police for? Our current chief wants to play touchy feelie with these people. Enforce the law, that’s what you were hired to do.
    Regarding past past city councils that had Republicans, its interesting that has the number of identified city council republicans decreased the degree of homelessness has increased. Just saying. As mentioned today, look at your ballot next time you vote in the city election, we do not need inexperienced people on the council

  32. Agreed. The fact that this small city is ruled by a national political party is disgusting. Murillo has no business being a mayor of a city with a annual budget of $350,000,000 when she has never managed a P/L or even overseen a budget or staff of any size. But she is easy to manipulate and being an abject moron, she made her a very good choice for the public employee unions. We need leadership that actually understands finance and has held business management roles – actual private enterprise experience. That is where tough decisions are made for the betterment of the whole. Where funds and resources are limited and survival requires strength, foresight and clear understanding of the challenges. Murillo thinks the city’s a jobs program for families. She is so beyond inept its embarrassing. No wonder the union bosses want her in the roll. The last person they want is an actual, experienced business leader who understands how to cut fat and build for the future. After all, holding people responsible is the downfall of any bureaucracy and a nightmare for the mediocrity that thrives in such an org.

  33. “Trump said”. HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!
    His administration never came up with nor did they present a plan of any kind. How can you expect people to agree to work on a plan together if there is no plan to work on.
    Salud Carbajal never said he would not work with Donald Trump on the homeless issue. Trump just did what he always does, puffed up his fat face and slammed his tiny fists on a lectern and “said” he was going to do something with the real goal being getting his supporters fired up, not actually fixing the problem.
    and then he never did it.
    Just like always. When will the suckers in this country figure out they have been conned by Don.

  34. While there most certainly IS a homeless problem in our city and we need to deal with it swiftly, that alone is NOT a reason to vote Republican. Republicans also consistently vote to take away a woman’s choice, cut back environmental regulations, repeal laws in place to protect wiildlife and our wild lands, and build a stupid wall? NO THANK YOU! This Republican administration has done nothing but lie, steal, commit heinous and treacherous crimes and ruin our environment. What kind of legacy do you want to leave your children? I will stand down at city hall and demand them to deal with our homeless problem, I’ll write letters and speak out loudly, but I will NEVER EVER vote Republican!

  35. People do have rights, even the homeless. The ACLU is there for a good reason. Just because a person is homeless doesn’t mean they are a pariah or less than human. There are “some very good people” (to quote a fat corrupt orange politician) that are homeless for reasons beyond their control. There are also some very bad people on the streets. Yes, we have a problem. Blaming the ACLU for sticking up for human rights doesn’t help a thing.

  36. Chip, i live downtown. this posts are a bit over the top. when i say i live downtown, i’m 2 blocks west from State and Ortega. So on a walk, downtown is in our walking area, my kids and I frequent downtown almost daily/nightly.
    Just like any town or city, there are homeless, drunks, etc. We are no different than any other place. Downtown is safe. One incident like this isn’t a call for everyone to be fearful. I feel safe downtown and so do my kids and our neighbors and their kids etc. Let’s not jump on the hysteria band wagon. Downtown may be boring AF now, with few shops and shuttered doors, but it’s safe. No matter where you go, you should always be aware and vigilant. Whether it’s santa barbara or maybury.

  37. Well the city certainly has enough money to do that! One look at the inept and inane projects I’ve seen downtown over the years and the salaries of city employees show us that. City staffers with $100k a year pay and we STILL have potholes everywhere. The city spends a stupid amount of money on those dumb “ambassadors” in the red vests for tourists (BIGGEST PATHETIC WASTE OF MONEY I’VE EVER SEEN!) and yet there is open storefronts everywhere due to greedy landlords and out of state owners and a massive homeless problem. THE CITY needs to deal with this and fire all those stupid ambassadors.

  38. “Full powers of the EPA”?! HAHAHAHA! You mean the EPA that Trump has entirely gutted and filled with big oil men? FAT CHANCE. Trump is the worst thing that has ever happened to this country and if people can’t see that they are blind or stupid or both.

  39. Trying to sort this out. It seems more like a rumor than a report of facts. Roger says 3 homeless were involved in the ‘attack’ where the headline says he reported ‘a large group…’ Then things go off on hysterical complaints and judgments. This sort of ‘reporting’ leads to bad things. Maybe this is not yet reported on other media because it is being investigated for accuracy? Please take a deep breath and wait until some facts are known before burning suspected witches.

  40. Much cheaper for library to hire private security than to have a cop costing about $200K a year in total salary, benefits, equipment, training, and HR costs standing around waiting for something to happen. Private security is probably $20/hr at most, so $41,600/yr.

  41. A lot of people seem to think there is no way to take drug addicts and mentally ill people into custody. Despite the multitude of hazards this population presents to themselves and the public, many argue that we cannot arrest them until they act out in a destructive manner. I see some merit in this reasoning. How can we arrest someone because we believe they are at risk of causing harm when they haven’t actually caused any harm yet? I see a parallel here to drunk driving. Most drunk drivers never cause any harm. However, we arrest drunk drivers because we believe they present an unacceptable risk to themselves and to others. If we can take drunk driver’s into custody to protect the public, then we can certainly take all the drug addicts and mentally ill into custody using the same rationale. It’s better for them, and better for everyone else. Continuing to leave these pour souls suffering on the streets is inhumane, destructive to our economy and way of life, and a danger to the public.

  42. CHIP OF SB – Being mentally ill or a drug addict is in no way the same as drunk driving. One is illegal, the others are not. They arrest and take into custody drunk drivers because they are violating a law against driving under the influence. There is no law against being mentally ill, nor is there any law against being a drug addict. Yes, it is illegal to be under the influence or using certain drugs, but being an addict is not illegal by itself. As for mentally ill people, well there’s certainly no law prohibiting them from being in public. Kind of nuts I have to even explain this….

  43. Now the NewsPress is my paper, along with plenty others in town who still support a daily delivery paper – Be careful thinking the progressive agenda is normative. It is not. You got stuck in a Democrat echo chamber for too long in this town.

  44. They did that to me they’d take me to Winchester Canyon say “They are picking apples in Washington, go there.” They would dump me out there. I’d cross over the highway to the Southbound lanes and beat them back to town hitchin…

  45. It’s a reference to the 1982 film “First Blood”. At the beginning of the film, Vietnam vet John Rambo (Sylvester Stallone) is trying to find an old friend and is mistaken as a drifter by cruel, small town Sheriff Teasle (Brian Dennehy). Teasle drives Rambo to the edge of town and strongly encourages him to move on the the next town and not return. This movie is a classic and fueled an obsession with survival knives for me and all my friends…the bigger the better. Memories.

  46. Your criticism of the Republican party is valid but the Democrat party embraces socialism, sanctuary cities, releasing violent criminals , higher taxes and generally wants to intrude on our private lives.
    Both parties suck. I think it is time to vote Republican because we have lost the balance. As long as our state and local governments lean so heavily to one side, the nasty side of a political base
    shines through.

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