Anonymous
Source: Santa Barbara County Public Health Department
Santa Barbara County has met the State’s Yellow Tier case rate and positivity rate allowing movement into the less restrictive Yellow Tier, effective Wednesday, June 09, 2021 at 8 a.m. A new Health Officer Order will be issued which includes guidance on business operations in the Yellow Tier. The new Health Officer Order will further ease restrictions and allow more indoor activities, in accordance with the rules and framework of the Blueprint for a Safer Economy.
To qualify for the Yellow Tier, a region must have an adjusted case rate less than 2 cases per every 100,000 residents, a testing positivity rate of less than 2%, and less than 2.2% positive tests for the health equity quartile. Santa Barbara County’s adjusted case rate is 0.9 cases per every 100,000 residents, the positivity rate stands at 0.7%, and the positive tests for the health equity quartile stand at 1.0%.
“The vaccines are working and the State will be lifting most restrictions beginning June 15. In particular masking except for in many workplaces, will become optional states Dr. Henning Ansorg, Health Officer for Santa Barbara County. “We all play an important part in defeating this virus and the community as a whole is safer the more persons are fully vaccinated. The vaccines have been shown to be very safe and effective even against newer variants of the virus. If you haven’t done so already, please get vaccinated today.”
Here are some of the changes allowed under the Yellow Tier as listed in the Blueprint for a Safer Economy Activities Chart:
· Restaurants: Indoor seating increases to 50% capacity or 200 people maximum (whichever is less).
· Gyms and Fitness Centers: 50% capacity indoors; saunas and steam rooms can open.
· Wineries and Breweries: 50% capacity or 200 people indoors maximum (whichever is less).
· Movie Theaters: 50% capacity.
· Museums, Zoos and Aquariums: Open indoors with modifications.
· Places of Worship: 50% capacity indoors with modifications.
· Bars with no food service: Open indoors with modifications, 25% capacity or 100 people maximum (whichever is less).
· All retail: No capacity limits.
For more information about the COVID-19 response locally, please visit https://publichealthsbc.org or call 2-1-1.
Mask if you drive a Prius, unmasked if a Ford pickup.
How about ‘Out of an abundance of caution’ then?
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Overabundance would be more accurate…
The science is very clear. If you’re fully vaccinated, there is no need to wear a mask in any context because your chances of contracting COVID are very small and, if you do, you will be asymptomatic or have very minor symptoms. Furthermore, the viral load you would shed would be so miniscule you are incapable of infecting another person.
And yet the mask mandate continues in spite of the CDC’s announcement that they are no longer necessary for vaccinated people. And I don’t see any retreat in California from compulsory mask-wearing.
Unfortunately, it has become so politicized you have the hard right Trumpers on the one hand who refuse to wear masks and get vaccinated. On the other hand, there are self-righteous liberals who continue wearing masks and insist on everyone else wearing them, even when it’s not necessary.
Both sides are fanatics and both sides are ignoring science.
Politically I am far to the left of the liberals, but what matters for me is not ideology but a faith in science.
I don’t believe that fully-vaccinated people should be compelled to wear masks, and with the vaccine rollout now in its seventh month, no one should be required to mask up.
Let the chips fall where they may.
An overabundance of caution and an inability to asses risk.
Isn’t this whole “tier” thing getting scrapped next week? lol
The tier thing is going away, but many of the restrictions and mandates will remain in force. Fully vaccinated people, for no good reason, will continue to have to wear masks on public transport, at work, and in a variety of settings for purely ideological, nonscientic reasons. It’s no joking matter.
I feel embarrassed for the public health officials when they try to explain why fully vaccinated people have to continue to wear masks because they know that there is absolutely no scientific basis for the universal mask mandate. Sounding foolish and hypocritical, they undermine their authority. They may have MDs after their names, but these public health bigwigs are just propagandists at the end of the day, and the messaging from them during this entire pandemic has been a complete debacle.
We didn’t do better than Florida! We killed more older people (per 100k) than Florida…we just have less older people and more younger people. We accomplished nothing…unless we count the school/many businesses that shutdown because of people in power here in CALI peddling the same fear mongering as you. You never did answer the fatality rate question Pit…still at 3% or did you look at a COVID report from somewhere other than Milan circa March 2020???
They have done better than CA. Nearly identical covid stats, (worse if you include the higher population of older people) while we kept schools closed, businesses closed, beaches closed, parks closed, destroyed livelihoods, achieved the highest unemployment and sent $30 billion (that’s Billion with a B, and that amount keeps increasing the more they discover) out of state in fraudulent EDD claims. If you’re going to pull what CA did you better be damn sure you’re right, but we were wrong.
I always have one on hand for just such purpose. I think every pocket of every jacket has one. They are in the glove box. The back seat, the front seat. The little storage thingy between the front seats. The backpacks. It’s like an infestation. They are littered everywhere outside like cigarette butts.
Except…the numbers aren’t that different…and when you look at Florida’s older population, Florida did AT LEAST as good as California…if not better. Now that’s not saying masks don’t have an effect…they do! Masks indoors during periods where things are spiking are invaluable. Same with targeted and specific shutdowns…think school for 2 weeks…not 13 months!
Yeah, it’s just a few more dead people, and the disparity is growing as time goes on and their rates remain high, but who cares about a few thousand more dead folks in an entire state?
For some odd reason you think that by proving masks did something, that somehow means California’s over the top insane response that involved schools closed for over a year was somehow right. They are not competing ideas…Masks made sense in many scenarios throughout the last year…but schools being closed for that long did not make sense.
We killed more (per 100k) of the people (the elderly) who make up the vast majority of COVID deaths. So…your statement makes sense…as long as it’s directed at California…
If Florida’s results were analogous to ours, over 3200 more Floridians would still be alive. If California’s results were analogous to Florida’s, over 5900 more Californians would be dead. Yeah, you’re cherry picking.
going to Harry’s to celebrate – without mask!!
I didn’t dodge your question, I ignored it because it was worthless. I thought it was pretty obvious I was making a joke, but I guess it shot right over everybody’s head.
Nope! If California had the same population demographics as Florida, many more Californians would be dead.
Of the 586k deaths in the US, 467k have been people over 65 (and all but 26k have been over 50). Florida’s population is 20% over 65 while California’s is 14%.
In California 47,232 people over the age of 65 died of Covid (out of 5,669,000)
In Florida 27,961 people over the age of 65 died of Covid (out of 4,358,000)
So…if we had Florida’s numbers (.00641% of total elderly population dying) 11k less Californians over the age of 65 would be dead. But maybe you are OK with that…
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
https://www.prb.org/resources/which-us-states-are-the-oldest/
Cherry picking.
We actually did worse in every category…the only thing we did better in is that we have less old people and more young people…so by virtue of having quite a few more of the people who basically aren’t affected by Covid, and quite a few less of the people who actually are affected by Covid one could on an anonymous forum cherry pick and say California did better than Florida. It’s inaccurate and refuted flat out by the CDC data, but it is fun to pat ourselves on the back!
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
Nope…we did worse in every age demographic…all we can pat ourselves on the back for is that we are such a crappy place to retire that we have quite a few less older people. HOORAY US!
DUKE – I will agree that shutting everything down temporarily when it was spiraling out of control at the start was probably a good thing, but not for the duration they did. We had to stop the spread quickly and we knew nothing about the virus. So yeah, I think it might have saved some lives. BUT… schools should have been open in September though, as well as outdoor dining with distancing. We didn’t know, nobody knew, so harping on leaders who were SOLELY trying to protect the masses doesn’t do any good. We learned and adapted. See where we are now. Now for the love of Pete, you and VOR need a new hobby or obsession. We’re good and fine now, no need to dwell on past mistakes!
Sac “Every time I think I’m out… they pull me back in”!!!!!
DUKE – I think you’re going to have to “Scarface” your way out of this one!
Loose Cannon, that is a very cogent response to the situation with masks et all today. Sometimes I wonder if we will all be required to wear masks until the infection rate goes to zero. As with all infectious diseases where vaccination is available, is it a moral imperative for the majority to limit their activities to protect a minority who refuse to mask?
The science was clear early on that older people were most vulnerable, followed by obese people and diabetics.
A Scientist from Harvard med was silenced for saying shutdowns went against the science and proposing that we sequester to susceptible and let the younger less vulnerable carry on. Literally silenced in that the Social Media sites blocked his work from their sites and additionally was silenced by Harvard.
Turns out he was right.
It isn’t so bad that people did not take his advice, its bad that his ideas on the virus were scrubbed like the old Soviet Union.
Remember when the Soviets banned photos of Western Supermarkets and department stores with all the bountiful choices? Not allowed because the Soviet system of communism was run by bureaucracy that chose what option the people should have: Monday stand in line all day for three rotten potatoes and no protein, but it is free of charge. Tuesday all day in line for three cups of barley. Wednesday one pair of pants, wrong size, crappy material. Two mismatched shoes, same size, but not your size.
Does CDC data from today work for you?
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
So lets dive in! As per the CDC (from today!!!):
Deaths from Covid by age:
Florida 0 to 17 – 14 deaths
California 0 to 17 – 34 deaths
Florida 18 to 29 – 129 deaths
California 18 to 29 – 362
Florida 30 to 39 – 339 deaths
California 30 to 39 – 1113 deaths
Florida 40 to 49 – 980 deaths
California 40 to 49 – 2871 deaths
Florida 50 to 64 – 4968 deaths
California 50 to 64 – 13,103 deaths
Florida 65 to 74 – 7652 deaths
California 65 to 74 – 14,721 deaths
Florida 75 to 84 years – 10,368 deaths
California 75 to 84 years – 15,853 deaths
Florida over 85 – 9941 deaths
California over 85 – 16,658
So Florida (while having a little more than 1/2 the population of California) has roughly 1/3 the number of deaths in each age group of California, until you get to the age group that is succombing to COVID (over 65). Combining the ages over 65 in total deaths you get:
California total deaths over 65 – 47,232
Florida total deaths over 65 – 27,961
California has 6 million people over the age of 65, to Florida 4.5 million. So Florida has 75% of California’s senior population, yet they only have 59% of it’s senior fatalities.
It’s actually rather simple and obvious (which is why I’m guessing you went anonymous). There are 10 million kids under 18 in California and 4.3 million in Florida. So, the death rate in California for kids under 18 is:
California death rate of Covid under 18 whole population: .0000034% (34 total)
Florida death rate of Covid under 18 whole population: .00000326% (14 total)
So more kids under 18 died of covid in California than Florida (if we had Florida’s numbers 1.4 kids would still be alive…though not sure how that .4 kid would look). But since death at this age is so rare, this slightly worse percentage actually boosts California’s numbers as you are multiplying a slightly higher percentage over an extra 5.7 million people. This repeats over each demographic.
I’m assuming you didn’t keep reading…it’s not that fun when you think you are right and ask someone to show their work and then…they show their work (via the undisputed world recognized source) and you are shown to be completely wrong.
In the end California has less deaths per 100k because we have so many millions of additional kids and 20-50 year olds. They died (as per the CDC data from today) in a slightly higher percentage in California across the board…but since we have twice the population of Florida but substantially less than twice the elder population…our per 100k is “better”. You had a higher chance of dying in every single age group of Covid if you lived in California…but since the average age in California is 36.5 (to Florda’s 42)…we get that little victory. Here’s that CDC link again…you wont go…but maybe someone will…
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
VOR, always like factchecking your pronouncements from the mount because you are so often wrong:
Immunocompromised people comprise up to 4% of people in the US, and the vaccine won’t help them. That is part of the reason that the vaccines are only around 95% effective. https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/871290. So 5% of us can get sick after being vaccinated, especially if you visit Alabama or Mississippi with low numbers of vaccinated people.
There were 14,000 pedestrian injuries in CA in 2018. That is 0.035% of our population and most of those are from actually crossing the street, not walking down the sidewalk. https://www.ots.ca.gov/media-and-research/campaigns/pedestrian-safety/
Maybe if you compared the numbers that will get really sick from covid after vaxxing and all pedestrian injuries but I don’t want to write your posts for you….
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The simple fact that Florida killed a larger fraction of its populace pretty much refutes everything you said about Florida doing better and also did better in every age group. You just continue to throw spam at the fan in hopes of obscuring the fact that what you claim is mathematically impossible.
256pm – California killed a higher percentage in EVERY SINGLE DEMOGRAPHIC. Look at the CDC data…its irrefutable. We have more kids…who don’t die from COVID. I’m sorry for presenting CDC numbers and stats that require a calculator.
Tell me…How is it mathematically impossible? I’ll make it easy for you: If you essentially cant die from COVID when you are 18 and under, and you have an exponentially higher death rate when you are over 65….who’s going to do better, a nursing home or an elementary school? If you combined a thousand elementary schools and compared them to a thousand senior homes, who’s going to do better? Now take that simplified lesson to a larger population. 20.5% of Florida’s population is over 65, compare that with California’s 14.3%. I
But again…look at the numbers and tell me why the CDC numbers are mathematically impossible? This could be your first exercise in stats since High School…could be fun (and if you do it, will be illuminating as what you thought was mathematically impossible is reality).
Will you be so kind (when you realize it) to confirm here via edhat that the (mathematically) “impossible” happened… and… if possible… if you could say it in your best Kevin Garnett voice it would truly be appreciated.
173 is the deaths per 100K population in Florida.
158 is the deaths per 100K population in California.
Both numbers are easily seen at the CDC COVID tracker page, valid as of June 10.
Without obfuscating and paltering by cherry picking age categories, please explain how Florida’s results were better for its citizens. The only possible explanation is that you think more deaths per 100K is a better outcome.
False analogy, as anyone who thinks about it can clearly see. Unless you think some people have less value than others.
The people who insist on breaking things down by age are making a major mistake in that the percentage of some subcategory of the population that died is not the same number as its deaths per 100K of the overall population. They need to apply a conversion factor to deaths per 100K of the total population to make their argument valid, and then it wouldn’t support their position. It’s all just a case of believing what they want to believe, rather than what’s real.
How… where so? Everyone is of truly profound value and significance… but what does that have to do with a sickness that is wildly discriminatory (by age) in who it targets? More Floridians died per total capita of Covid… but more Californians (per capita) of each and every age demographic died from it than Floridians.
Think clearly and look at the numbers.. more died per 100k in every age group… we “beat” Florida at the finish line not because we had less deaths by any age group… but because we have a lot less of the age group that does from Covid.
Still a mathematic impossibility? or did you find a calculator and actually get around to doing some math…?
Every age group did worse in California… or do you dispute the CDC numbers? Apply the conversion factor!!! We have less old people and so less total deaths… that being said every age group (0-18, 19-29, 29-39, 49-59, 60-75, 75-85 and 85+) died at a higher rate here in California.
you are (in a sense) arguing that residents of del playa road did better than residents of el colegio road… I’m merely pointing out that friendship manor is on el colegio and everyone on del play is 18-22…
Demographics matter in a pandemic that is wildly discriminatory against those over 65… so yeah, go us… we have quite a lower percentage of the people that die of Covid so we had less per 100k (despite every age group faring worse comparatively).
Apples to apples my friend…
Since way more people want to live in CA than FLA, your numbers should be converted to percents, in which case FLA looks worse, right? Victims of our own popularity. Lying with numbers again, the favorite ‘con game.
You misspoke here..
Instead of “some subcategory” you meant to say “every single sub category”!
You are literally patting yourself on the back for living in a state with less old people.
Pitmix – I don’t know why I ask, but what are you talking about???!! Those are the CDC numbers… and when you convert them all to percents, More in each demographic died in California. Are you refuting them in some capacity? And again… what’s the r fatality rate again? Still pushing that lie of 3 to 5% to justify the schools closing for over a year…?