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Caller reporting several subjects committing batteries on each other on the 500 block of state street. Police responding with lights and sirens.
Multiple Batteries on State Street
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July 7, 2021, 2:03 am
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Where does the money in the defunding come from?
The assumption is that the police won’t be needed if the homeless are put up in motels.
It simply means that the police will be responding to a motel rather than some random stack of brush, pallets and tarps on the side of the freeway. The police should probably put a substation in each motel
Its expensive to house people this way and they don’t get much for the money. Small studio, no kitchen.
$6000 a month, $72,000 a year per person or per couple. 30 homeless for one year single occupancy is $2,200,000. Plus the owners of the motels are going to have to gut the place and fumigate after the homeless leave.
Also a bunch of the homeless like living under their own terms and are fine living outdoors if that is what it takes.
The people that move into a shelter and make a better way for themselves were not the homeless committing crimes, they were the homeless who were the victims of crimes committed upon them by the other type of homeless. The drug addicted, mentally ill and/or dangerous homeless are not going to move into the Rose Garden Inn and magically stop commiting crimes,.
Los Angeles vagrants, put into motels under Operation Room Key, formed a union to complain about lack of services and prison-like conditions they were forced to live under…when they were put up for free in Los Angeles County.
Yes yes, the Grapevine will spread the word far and wide. Come to California, identify as an illegal alien, and immediately you’ll get all free medical and the streets are paved with gold. Identify as homeless and you get a free $190 a night hotel room.
There’s a land that’s fair and bright,
Where the handouts grow on bushes
And you sleep out every night
Where the boxcars all are empty
And the sun shines every day
On the birds and the bees
And the cigarette trees
The lemonade springs
Where the bluebird sings
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains
Lame strawman argument. At least make it funny.
LUCKY777: why so hateful always? Is the ink getting to you?
Tell us where he is actually wrong . All of that is true
@4:29: “Come to California, identify as an illegal alien, and immediately you’ll get all free medical and the streets are paved with gold. Identify as homeless and you get a free $190 a night hotel room.” That’s all hyperbole and inaccurate. You don’t just get a “free ride” for being illegal, not do you get a free hotel room simply for saying “hi, I’m homeless.”
Critical thinking…..
Mayor Murillo and the City Council voted for spending $500,000 per month to house 50 homeless people for four months at a cost of $2,000,000. That’s $10,000 each homeless person per month! This is how they are using your tax money while many of you struggle from day to day working to make ends meet!
The SBPD is under funded and under staffed and most of their calls are in the downtown area where they make a valiant effort to keep criminals from attacking each other and Santa Barbara residents foolish enough to go to downtown State Street.
Every member of the Santa Barbara City Council must be recalled! ENOUGH!
@4:35 – They are TEMPORARILY housing the homeless while they clean up the encampments were all these fires have been starting. You people kick and scream and demand a solution and the City present you with one. “No! I want it all fixed but I don’t want to pay for it!”
The voters have spoken loudly and clearly for years, and they are with SACJON. I hate to say it, but it’s over. I would advise against buying property, within the Santa Barbara city limits as a general proposition. I would also advise caution if anyone is contemplating living within the city limits; choose a location very carefully and rent rather than buying. Finally, I would advise anyone contemplating bringing children into the city limits to consider going elsewhere or at the very least be very thoughtful about where in the city you go. There are a number of lovely places to visit in this county, but Santa Barbara city is no longer a family friendly option.
CHIP – the voters want the problem fixed, the City is trying to do that, despite all the crying about “muh taxdollers!”
The arguments about fear of homeless and brown skinned people are underwhelming.
How is the city trying to “fix” the problem again? And please don’t call the 10k per month temporary hotel stay during fire season for a select (willing!!) portion a fix…
DUKE – You asked a question and then refuse to allow me to explain. Way to go.
DUKE – You don’t really want an explanation, that’s clear from your comment, but I’m going to simplify it so that everyone, even you, can’t pick it apart.
The problem: fires being started in homeless encampments.
The fix: clear out homeless encampments.
The complaints: I don’t want my “tax dollars” going to house displaced homeless people while the City cleans out the camps I’ve been complaining about.
Easy.
Sac – 10k per month for the portion of the people willing to leave is just not a reasonable solution. Considering fire season in SB is what, 9 months of the year AND a large portion of the people won’t leave unless forced… how is this an actual solution?
Are they clearing out camps and then making sure new camps don’t pop up? I got the impression they were offering rooms to people that would take it and weren’t going to be able to do much more than house 50 people for 2 million dollars for 4 months…
I guess I’m failing to see the solution you are pointing out… I’m seeing a pit where money is being thrown. Correct me though… how is this a logical or reasonable option?
DUKE – what’s your solution? The camps are being gutted and cleaned as we speak. How is that not an attempt to fix the problem of homeless fires being started in encampments? Yeah, it’s not perfect, but the constant whining, even when the City makes a pretty big effort, is jut exhausting. If you hate homeless people that much, move to Goleta. We’re pretty free and clear out here!
don’t get sensitive here Sac… I didn’t “refuse” to let you explain… I simply am of the opinion that 10k per person for the select few chosen/willing to go to the hotel is a silly solution so I was hoping someone would bring more to the table.
It’s a lot of money… 2 million would be a nice jump start to the Ortega pool project which will (exponentially) benefit more than 50 people for 4 months…
I don’t hate the homeless at all… why would you say/think that? I just think that this isn’t a solution and it’s wildly fiscally irresponsible.
I think we need Another (non secular) option like the rescue mission that doesn’t allow for drugs and alcohol and helps those that want to be helped and a mental health institutions that is an option for those that need help and is a better option than prison…
DUKE – you refuse to acknowledge the attempt to address your complaints, plain and simple. Instead of constantly complaining, why don’t you offer a solution on how to deal with the homeless encampments where all the fires are starting?
Sac – I did… not sure why it didn’t post. I think we need a secular version of the rescue mission that tests for drugs/alcohol to help those want it and a mental health option that isn’t prison for those that need that. It involves a lot more money than 2 million… but instead of wasting 2 million here and a million there (IV pallet village) let’s actually fix things.
Because this isn’t a solution… it’s a waste of money…
Sac – I just don’t have that much faith in there being much (if any) effect in moving 50 volunteers into this hotel. I could (obviously) be wrong but it didn’t seem like there was a huge amount of “clearing” going on related to this project… and seemingly any camp they do clear out will move a few hundred yards and quickly start accumulating all the debris that inevitably comes with these camps. Enforcement of existing laws with an actually commitment toward long term fixes seems like the only reasonable course of action here.
Sacjon : When ? After enough “defunding” is glamorized and takes place ! It has already started in many cities …
Chilligrillin : After it happens to you or your family you’ll find it much LESS funny !
Defund the police means exactly what it says ! : No more police !
If they meant anything else , they would have say so !
We’ll all feel much safer with no police anymore !
Suggested no one *eye roll*
Sacjon : You absolutely do GET free medical, no questions asked driving license and free tuition and protection from the police the minute you declare yourself illegal in Ca !
Sacjon : are you naive enough to believe that moving homeless from one part of the city to another will solve ANY of their problems ?
FONDOFSB – there will be “no police anymore?” When is that happening?
We can monetize this. New attraction for the state street promenade: FUUP cage matches. Sponsored by Redbull. “Bring Pride to your Neighborhood” Ringside seats for the tony crowd. Manhandler Bloody Margaritas, with a splash of grenadine, you know, for color.
EGGS ACKLEY, LOLOLOL! Just spit my coffee out! Made my day!
Am I the only one who saw the title and wondered who dumped a bunch of car batteries on state st?
LETMEGO, you too? LOL! I thought the same!
Fond – no police anymore? In what city? I see police here all the time every single day.
For any of you who think “Defund the Police” means to get rid of police, nothing could be further from the truth. What it means is to provide less funds to the police department, and divert that money to programs such as housing street people at the Orange Tree Inn and Rose Garden Inn. When the “areas of concern” (homeless camps) are cleared out, and those people are situated in these hotel rooms, that opens up more room/space at the “areas of concern.” The word is out: SB is THE place to be if you are a non-productive person who has issues. Locations with less real estate value just won’t do when you’ve got nothin’ to do or even when you have something to do like throw fireworks at gas tanks/pumps. Cathy was SO PROUD when she was interviewed yesterday about her program at the Rose Garden Inn. BTW: you can book a room at the RGI for this Friday….$167 plus tax = $190.
PIT – of course no one complaining here cares about this. They’re so outraged that their precious
“tax dollars” are being used to address the very thing they complain about, they don’t care if it’s actually helping. These people complain PURELY for the sake of complaining, no matter the topic at hand. No solutions, just complaints.
For those unable/unwilling to use their thinking skills when attacking my posts, here it is AGAIN, as simple as I can make it.
1) I never once at any time any where said this is “solving the homeless problem” or anything even remotely near that. This is simply one effort to clean up the camps where all these fires have been starting. It doesn’t solve anything other than cleaning up hazardous messes and giving the police a chance to better patrol/discourage any new encampments in an effort to stop the out of control fires in these camps.
2) This is TEMPORARY, not a long-term solution. But something, especially according to all you (DUKE, RYPERT et al) needs to be done “NOW.” Well, they’re trying (and succeeding) in a stop gap effort to reduce the risk of fires in the filthy camps. They’re trying to get a foothold on this crises and all you do is complain even more.
Go find something else to spend your day complaining about.
Sac YOU don’t get it, there is no temporary in this situation. Think critically. Try harder. Come on, try. Does the word “snowball” mean anything to you?
Letmego – They aren’t clearing all the encampments… It’s a total of 50 people they are putting up.
If the city wanted to, they could provide $6000 huts for the homeless at the Armory and the MacKenzie Army land. That is $500 a month. Instead they want 6-10,000 a month. Why can’t the taxpayers point out that the taxpayer is not getting a good deal.
You can rent an 4 bedroom 4 bath house in Montecito for $20,000 mo https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1221-La-Vista-Rd-Santa-Barbara-CA-93110/15901116_zpid/
but the taxpayers get 4 motel rooms for $24,000 and are not allowed to complain
Fundo,
Learn to Google… the righties use that slogan to divert the intended real meaning.
Homeless In math: $3000 for the motel room – $7000 going to Homeless Inc for “services. That is why this will never be a “temporary” project. 70% going for management fees. Mark your calendar four months from now. Taking bets now to see what excuses the city will make four months from now to keep refunding this “temporary” project.
“If they meant anything else , they would have say so !”
Please give us a short slogan that means “reduce police militarization and transfer those funds to social services to address a wide range of issues that currently are handled by police but that they are ill-equipped for”. BTW, here’s a translation of “!” — “I haven’t got a factual leg to stand on so I’ll just shout instead–emphasis is truth, doncha know?”
Word has gotten out that Santa Barbara is generous to the homeless. Just last week, I helped a homeless friend of mine pick up two of his friends from the Amtrak station whom he had invited out from Alabama. It doesn’t matter what the City and State does–as long as Santa Barbara continues to provide generous benefits, more and more homeless will pour in from all over the country. The “solutions” are merely making the problem worse.
It would be better to provide local residents facing homelessness with short-term assistance, but screen out-of-state arrivals as much as the law permits. With Medi-Cal, food stamps, and local benefits being among the best in the country–along with the weather and City’s reputation–the problem will continue to get worse, not better. Tolerance of violent and drug-addicted criminals is not tolerance, it is a recipe for anarchy. End compassion now!
Marcel – Sure.. how about :
“Fund the police”!
Let’s get more money to the police with the explicit point of those extra funds going to better train our law enforcement officers as well as add specialists to the ranks that can join the call/response where/when needed.
How about defunding for bums and vagrants…
I hate to say it Babycakes, but “providing less funds to the police department”, is the same as “defunding the police”. Defunding=providing less funds=taking funds away. Which in turn provides less resources for the Police to do their job of protecting the public interests.
CWANZY – because we’re not paying bums and vagrants to respond to mental health crises with armored vehicles and automatic weapons. One reason right there.
Where to move local vagrant camps? They move to Monique Limon and Salud Carbajal’s offices and camp out there – this is a state and federal issue to solve, and so far neither Limon or Carbajal are at the table providing solutions. No one city can ever be made responsible to solve this state and federal problem, and it is time voters sent that message to a brand new city council and mayor. Homeless Inc, take your case to state Senator Monique Limon and Congressional Rep Salud Carbajal. It takes their combined leadership and not the local extortion measures which this city cannot afford.