AnonymousBy an edhat reader
I now have to go back into the office and will need childcare for my young kids who are not yet in school. Do edhatters have a recommendation of a childcare facility that follows all COVID-19 safety protocols, is licensed, and is reputable?
Any state-licensed facility. Kids have the safest natural defenses to Covid, don’t over think it.
Yep, look for a place that is friendly, well-run, and attentive to the kids. Ask to do an extended “shadow” to feel out whether they really are giving kids the right balance of freedom with supervision (no Lord of the Flies stuff happening, which is super-common in some preschools when underpaid staff sit on their phones and ignore groups of kids for hours at a time).
Any place that does that will also be taking reasonable Covid precautions… biggest of which is sending sick kids home more than before. Don’t be too scared of Covid… making good friends and practicing basic social skills is one of the most important learning experiences your kid will ever have… take the Covid risk (which is minimal for kids) in its proper balance.
Assuming no grave underlying conditions it is more dangerous for your child to drive to daycare than covid poses to them at childcare. That is a fact and is supported by data from cdc.gov among many other places.
Completely agree.
Completely agree.
Right … kids don’t get Covid argument…
Arkansas Children’s Hospital in Little Rock had 23 patients under 18 admitted to its system last week. Ten were in the ICU and five were on ventilators.
St. Louis Children’s Hospital in Missouri saw 13 kids come to the ER for Covid in the last week of July, and then it saw 20 who needed beds in the first week of August.
At Texas Children’s Hospital in Houston, Covid positivity rates have risen from around 3 percent to above 10 percent among kids. The number of hospitalized children was in the single digits several weeks ago but rose to more than 30 last week.
Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards said Friday that there are 13 children hospitalized with Covid at Children’s Hospital New Orleans, including six under the age of 2. Four children are in the ICU, including a 3-month-old boy, a 23-month-old girl, an 8-year-old girl and a 17-year-old boy.
Summing up the arguments here, since we lose more kids each year to car accidents than to this variant of Covid, we should just accept any incidental losses of kids due to Covid as a rounding error, pat the grieving families on their backs, and get back to celebrating at the sports bars.
Sure glad I don’t have any kids under that age of 12 that are being put at risk by the anti-vax crowd in our nation.
Correct shorebird, whataboutism, if that’s what you want to call it, is perfectly acceptable when used to compare different things to each other, in this case the relative risks driving, guns, and covid pose to children with car accidents and guns sending signfincitaly more children to the hospital than covid. I’m all for parents doing everything they feel necessary to protect their children, but if they applied that same risk aversion they take with covid, to other risks that are actually more likely to send their child to the hospital, you’d see most children riding in cars with helmets on. By requiring all kids to wear helmets in cars, and life jackets around any body of water, we would literally save more kids lives than we’d ever hope to save with every covid protocol, vaccine, and treatment combined.
but we should just let kids die, because it is “just one of those things”
dude, stop. your point is really not what you think it is.
VOICE – here we go again….
“other risks that are actually more likely to send their child to the hospital, you’d see most children riding in cars with helmets on. By requiring all kids to wear helmets in cars, and life jackets around any body of water, we would literally save more kids lives than we’d ever hope to save with every covid protocol, vaccine, and treatment combined.”
I’ve already dismantled this argument. Car crashes and drowning are not CONTAGIOUS. Your examples are not logically tied to your argument. No one wears a life jacket to avoid spreading diseases to others. It’s not all about the person wearing the mask, it’s also about those around that person, or kid.
VOR has no valid points. Just repeated whataboutism.
Predictably wrong on almost any subject he references.
Myself nor anyone else here made the “kids don’t get Covid argument” GT and I’m not sure what tallying up the number of kids in hospital for covid proves, if you could tally up the number of kids in the hospital due to car accidents it would be significantly more than are in the hospital for covid. This all goes back to how so many, too many, don’t understand risks, both from covid and the many other risks we face that no ones gives a second thought about yet are more likely to kill or hospitalize us than covid.
FACT: more children were SHOT in Chicago this year alone than have died from covid in the entire US throughout the pandemic.
Wait. You care about the lives of poor brown people in one of our major cities? That’s new. Next thing you know you’re going to cite the studies and figures that prove that increased access to birth control, woman’s healthcare and sex education reduces more abortions than the likes of the anti-abortion laws recently passed by the state of Texasistan. I for one am glad to read you’re for increased gun control and abortion access. At least you’re not a complete hypocrite…
Here is a great article I saw recently that helps put the risk is of covid in context. When it comes to childcare, and all aspects of our lives, it is important to weigh the costs and benefits of any steps we take to attempt to reduce the harm caused by covid. https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-bizarre-refusal-to-apply-cost
CANYONKID – You are wrong and spreading dangerous lies.
Science disagrees with your Sac.
None of you are following the science or experts on this, just sensational and anecdotal news clips and parroting social media posts. Pointing out the extremely low risk covid poses to kids yet extreme efforts we mandate to protect them, and the much higher risk things like drowning and car accidents (yet not mandates for life jackets and helmets, aren’t they as easy as masks? they work a lot better too) does not mean that children dying of covid doesn’t matter. If you think that’s callous or insensitive then you need to wake up! You’re doing more harm to children than covid does. None of the people hating on my comments here even address the very true facts I posted, as if continuing to ignore them will make them change. At least Europe is starting to come to their senses:
The overall risk of children becoming severely ill or dying from Covid is extremely low, a new analysis of Covid infection data confirms. Although this data covers up to February 2021, this hasn’t changed recently with the Delta variant. We hope this data will be reassuring for children and young people and their families.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57766717
Dr Joanne McClean from the PHA said Covid-19 was now posing a greater risk to children’s education than to their health. “Covid is a mild illness for the vast majority of children,” she told the BBC’s Good Morning Ulster programme. Children are not, by and large, being harmed by Covid. Children are being harmed by missing school.”
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-58507030.amp
Some day in the future, when the fear has worn off, many you will finally look back on these past 18 months and say “Why the heck did we put our children through that?!”.
This past weekend I saw a young girl on the beach playing in the surf, with a mask on. A mask on in the water! That is not rational behavior! It is actually making her less safe! This is the type of response that irrational fear produces and does more harm to our kids than covd. This madness needs to stop!