By Roger the Scanner Guy
Brush fire off Highway 101 southbound at Castillo Street Off-Ramp.
Brush Fire on Castillo Onramp
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May 17, 2021, 11:00 am
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SACJON, LOL! No man, it’s not a “real” corporation, but it might as well be. The term “Homeless Inc.” is something that was coined a while back when it became apparent that there were individuals, some in city & county government, who were profiting from bringing the “houseless neighbors” to the area.
The profits came in the form of donations from the public and grants from the state in the form of taxpayer money.
Meanwhile, the plight and condition, given all the money and other assets thrown in that direction, it stays the same or has gotten WORSE.
On top of that, some of the Homeless Inc. organizations such as Food Not Bombs Isla Vista, Bonfire Collective and a couple of others, they want to keep things like the tent city in People’s Park there PERMANENTLY.
They even had this one guy, JR, say “I’m not homeless, tis is my home!” to gain sympathy for their cause. That comment was so mocked!
In any case, look into the organizations “providing for the houseless neighbors” (aside from those I mentioned), get some of the names in charge then look in a certain local publications to see their smiling faces attending gala events to garner more support for their cause. That, my friend, is Homeless Inc.
SACJON, there is a solution, but it would be TOO revolutionary in scope. Here it is, if you don’t mind my proposing it here.
The county needs to establish an area, relatively removed from normal communities, where the “houseless neighbors” can safely camp, kind of a permanent campground.
It would be a place where organizations such as Food Not Bombs, Good Samaritan, Showers Of Blessings and others can set up shop and provide their services to the “houseless neighbors” in the encampment.
Even Eco-Vista can set up a food forest there, as there’d be plenty of fertilizer from the home made bucket toilets so common in homeless encampments!
The only service provided by the county would be trash removal and maybe public restrooms.
Now, here’s where it gets rather reolutionary. Empty out the police evidence lockers of al, the crack, meth and heroin and distribute it among those willing to partake in the usage of such drugs.
Of course, in order to qualify to receive the goods, you MUST sign a disclaimer waiver saying that if you OD, there will be no Narcan administered, basically a “DNR” (do not resuscitate) agreement. If an OD occurs, then there’s be another county service provided, that would be the coroner.
As for the alcoholic contingent, make 1 liquor store the sole provider for the alcohol demand to those interested.
Many of the “houseless neighbors” receive government checks, the funds from that can be used to pay the certified liquor provider.
There would be no police intervention in the encampment, the residents can do as they please to their heart’s content.
Want a better camping spot? Burn down the current camper’s belongings. Want to settle a drug debt? Assault the indebted party. Fits of rage from excessive alcohol? Fight it out!
No plice intervention, the “houseless neighbors” can police themselves to make for a better community.
Given the “terminality” of many of the “houseless neighbors” in the area, that is the ONLY solution available. They’re terminal, let them live out their lives in what they love doing.
Of course, there are those that would be willing to “rehabilitate” and for them, counselors would be available to provide the needed services to get them fixed up.
I have advocated here many times that Cuyama IS in Santa Barbara county but,has no 711’s or much of anything.
Perfect place to dry out and clean up.
santa barbara’s attitude towards the homeless is patronizing ! people seem to need to always be patting themselves on the back !
when will it be the TAXPAYERS that matter ?
Best advice I’ve heard is to stop voting fir the same people that do nothing and watch our City/County suffer.
Don’t vote for any incumbent or any past council members. They’ve all been on the council for a good decade with no improvement to any of the important issues.
There are two separate problems at play here. The first is how we manage fire hazards. Even if we eliminate the so called homeless problem, the fire hazard would remain. We have chosen not to address fire hazards in our community, so we will continue to live with a high fire risk with or without the “homeless”. The “homeless” problem is really a mental health and addiction crisis. The kindest description I have heard for our current approach to the problem is “compassionate neglect.” I would personally use much stronger language. Allowing addicts and the mentally ill to wither and die on our streets is harmful to them and harmful to the rest of our community. The solution is pretty simple, but we are unwilling to implement it. In 1955, there were nearly 560,000 mental hospital beds in this country, 337 beds per 100,000 population. Today we have about 38,000 beds, only about 12 per 100,000 population. In order to solve the problem, we need to get the addicted and mentally ill off the streets and provide them with the care and treatment they need. It’s the humane thing to do and it would clean up our streets. See this paper regarding the decline in psychiatric hospital beds. https://www.treatmentadvocacycenter.org/storage/documents/going-going-gone.pdf
SACJON, where? Well, that’d be up to the county. Are they allowed to leave? Absolutely, but they have to have an issued ankle monitor to make sure that any victims of their crimes can be paid restitution.
As for “hatred in my heart” as you imply, wow… Nah, not really shocked, but it’s not hatred though. Just pointing out reality and sometimes, reality can be harsh.
Then there’s the “sick individual” classification. I’m the guy, 1 of many, who work 40 plus hours per week to make ends meet, have no criminal record, abide by the law, am respectful to my neighbors and community and somehow, some way, according to you, I’m a “sick individual” for merely suggesting/proposing a solution based on the realistic demographic of the “houseless neighbors”?
Well, if that makes me a “sick individual” then I’ll gladly accept the title, as it’s a title based on airing the ONLY solution that WILL work. What do you have, oh normal one?
No,no,no,no….If your going to give out free drugs you got to give out free alcohol too!
RYPERT – “ankle monitor” – yeah, there you go. So you would be detaining these people (by physical boundary or by electronic tracking) regardless of whether they committed a crime, yes? Yes. Homelessness, in and of itself, is not a crime. You call yourself a “law abiding citizen,” ok fine. So, you would have no problem wearing an ankle monitor in case you ever commit a crime. Yes? Yes.
“Merely suggesting a solution.” No, you have gone to lengths to imagine and announce (hopefully not with your true name) your desire to round up and monitor the homeless population, provide them with hard drugs and alcohol and let them fight/kill each other with no police or any medical intervention. Yeah, you’re a real peach there, Rypert. Damn man….. you need help if you think it’s the “ONLY solution.”
CHIP – Never thought I’d say this, but you are 100% right!
SACJON, no, the camps aren’t “mandatory” as you ask, but highly recommened to satisfy the craving for hard drugs and free availability of such.
Are they free to come and go? Of course silly! The ONLY stipulation is they have to wear an ankle monitor to track their whereabouts so that if a crime is committed by them in any area of the county, the proper authories can respond, due process can be followed, the proper legal proceedings can take place and the vistim of the crime can get restitution.
As for the “healthier food” you’re asking about, the “houseless neighbors” DON’T want that. Living proof of this fact is Food Not Bombs Isla Vista has a feeding schedule where they provide home cooked vegan meals to the “houseless neighbors” in People’s Park.
I admire their moxy, they prep the food, drive to the location, set up the table and feed them, but there’s only one problem… the “houseless neighbors” DON’T eat it.
When they have peanut butter and jelly days, sure, they come out, grab a couple of sandwiches and retire to their tents or tarps, but those vegan meals… no dice baby!
Another thing I’ve seen there. Recently, there was a food distribution for the People’s Park tent city. They were given packaged tofu and containers of yogurt. Well, my friend, all those things ended up strewn about the Embarcadero Hall and in or around the garbage dumpster. So much for the “food insecurity” that Food Not Bombs Isla Vista, Bonfire Collective and Eco-Vista keep going on about. It simply DOESN’T exist.
Want to know what you see a lot of around the tent city? Lots of fast food packaging. McDonalds from Marketplace Plaza, Domino’s Pizza, Hamburger Habit, Taco Bell from Old Town Goleta and more. You name it, the wrappers are strewn about the tent city, just like all the used syringes.
SACJON, you are such a Negative Nelly! All these awesome suggestions and proposals and you keep naysaying! How can any progress on the matter occur?
But the ankle monitor thing. Hey, if the county would like to monitor my movements, I’d be glad to let them, as they don’t involve visits to the local heroin or meth dealer, stealing property in the areas near or far from where I live or raping people, such as recently happened in the People’s Park tent city.
RYPERT – how would you go about removing the 4th Amendment due process rights of those who choose to go to your concentration camps by requiring the monitors in the first place? Waivers? Will you provide them with legal aid to explain to them the rights you propose to take away from them? Also, why can’t the police respond to their crimes per the usual way? You know, someone calls 911? Your disgusting “plan” is sounding very expensive. Not sure I want to pay for it.
Lightning… I heard it was lightning…
@CHIP OFSB- Nice plan….but the ACLU will absolutely NOT allow forced rehab on vagrants and addicts. Therein lies the problem. New Cuyama would be an excellent location to build a tent city rehab camp- They could go to trade classes in the morning and rehab in the afternoon. Cereal for breakfast, hard boiled egg and an apple with a bologna sandwich for lunch and a bowl of soup a salad with protein for dinner…. You could spend a FRACTION of the 12 BILLION that Newsome is dedicating to “Homeless Inc” and deal with 100,000 of these addicts….but the ACLU….
Chip, it’s an intersting point you bring up about the “fire hazards” and such, but those have been in place for decades, no change whatsoever.
The ONLY thing that has changed is the high numbers of out of area “houseless neighbors”: being directed to come to this area.
I have documented proof that fires of this nature RARELY happened before the “houseless neighbors” showed up in large numbers. Once they did… FLAME ON!
Not to sound contrary, but your “fire hazards” narrative holds no heat. Just being truthful, not trying to be mean or anything.
SACJON, you already ARE paying for it, through a legal system that allows them to run free after committing crimes and all the fire calls the fire department has to respond to.
Think of it this way, if they police themselves in their own encampments, no need for the legal system to handle anything. As for the fires, we can provide them with extinguisers and hoses. Pays for itself already and cheaper than we already have. Think about it!
RYPERT – OK, so you and LUCKY and probably Coastwatch are all willing to give up your rights and wear ankle monitors, along with those you plan to lure away from town with drugs and alcohol and a 7-11. Got it. So, are you also willing to decline any medical or police intervention? You see, it’s one thing to dehumanize others, but if your willing to dehumanize yourself as part of the process, maybe you’re on to something…..
“Homeless, in and of itself, is not a crime.” However, the behavior that is indulged is a crime and that is the problem.
SACJON, we HAVE already dehumanized ourselves, you included. By allowing this occupying force to come into our communities and wreak the havoc they’ve unleashed, we’re either dehumanized or debased, pick your poison.
We’re allowing the destruction of this area from people from OUTSIDE the area, if that’s not an occupying force, well…
I know, I know, next thing you’re going to unleash is that I’m “demonizing the poor homeless” and such. Sorry my friend, I’m not the one carrying out what they do, they are, therefore demonizing themselves. Yes, it’s that simple.
Face it, we don’t agree, that’s all good, but the difference is I offered a solution, you didn’t. All you did was spend your time calling me a “sick individual” and claiming that I “have hatred in my heart” as well as calling the suggested plan disgusting and assorted other forays into negativity.
I admit, I called you a “Negative Nelly” and for that, please accept I was just teasing, but whatever, I said what I said and that’s what it is, in the words of Mr. Crowder, “Change my mind.”
But you want to know what’s more “disgusting” than my proposed plan? The young lady some of the male tent city dwellers are using and passing around like a doll for their enjoyment.
Ask her what’s more disgusting, my plan or the treatment she’s forced to endure from those you’re protecting. Facts are facts, just here to share those.
Only a sick, hateful individual would propose concentration camps.
3P14159, we never will, but our tax dollaers sure do! More for Homeless Inc. and the poverty pimps!
A-1621294533, if you’re allowed to come and go, that’s not much of a concentration camp, just a holiday from communities. Big difference.
But, you are right, a sick individual would propose concentration camps, a sicker individual allows the “houseless neighbors” to continue on their path of destruction.
SACJON, my apologies, I forgot to mention Doctors Without Walls, they can set up shop in the encampment as well. If there is a naturally occuring medical emergency or caare, sure, why not let them have it as well? Except… NO RESUSCITATION FROM OD’S! I hoipe that clears that up.
As for “giving up my rights” as you’re implying, my humble assumption is you’re basing that on tracking me. Uh,m big fella, if you have a cellphone, you ARE already tracked.
If you have social media, you ARE already tracked. The fact we’re posting here, we ARE already tracked.
But the truth to the matter is, If I’m not breaking any laws (robbery, burglary, theft, assault, rape, arson, murder), why would I care if they’re “tracking” me?
I wake up, get ready for work, go to work, do my job, get out of work, go to the gym or on a bike ride, maybe surf, come home, relax and start all over again. If ANY of that is illegal… ARREST ME.
SACJON’s questions, my answers:
“you will decline any medical care if you accidentally OD get injured in an attack or police response if someone tries to steal your belongings?”
1) Decline medical care for an OD or if attacked:
If I was a “houseless neighbor” then the answer is no, because I want to live another day to get a higher high than the day before.
2) Decline police help if belongings stolen:
If I was a “houseless neighbor” then yes, because “houseless neighbors” don’t snitch or rat others of their ilk out and besides, it was probably deserved from a drug debt. Another thing I have to add, those that’d be heloing int he encampment effort, Food Not Bombs and Bonfire Collective, they HATE the police. They’re abolitionists and such, so in order to appease the hand that feeds, yes, I’d have to turn the police help away.
But since I’m not a houseless neighbor, my choices would be completely different. I hope that answers your questions sufficiently.
Paul Casey do something!!!!!!
Palisades Fire started by a TRANSIENT/VAGRANT… It’s just a matter of time, here on the South Coast- Time to take action against those that don’t care about our communities.
Drove through SB yesterday heading north. What’s with all the tents on the freeway near Castillo? I must have seen 20 tents right on the freeway easement. kind of 3 large encampments. Where do they poop? pee? This is really gross and not much fun for those who have to put out the nightly fires. Why does Caltrans allow this? Why does the City allow this? Ventura doesn’t have this in the middle of their city. Can’t SB learn from cities where this isn’t tolerated? Zero tolerance is needed before SB has a major urban fire.
This is becoming all too normal these days and that’s the problem… TOO NORMAL! This is ANYTHING but NORMAL! When are people going to realize that rolling out the red carpet out to the “houseless neighbors” is a huge mistake?
Of course, there’s money and glory to be made from the plight of the “houseless neighbors” by Homeless Inc. and the poverty pimps.
FAce it folks, these homeless that keep showing up in the Isla Vista/ Goleta/Santa Barbara area, they’re NOT locals for the most part. They’re from other areas and were diverted here through certain means.
Meanwhile, the do-gooder organizations keep insisting we allow them to camp put in our parks and such PERMANENTLY!
By the way, I have to add that some of these do-gooder groups, they have a hatred toward “established persons” because apparently, holding a job, owning a home, paying your bills and abiding by laws is bad while doing meth and heroin, committing crimes and setting fires that endanger the community is good.
A lot of these “houseless neighbors” in the area, they didn’t lose their homes to wage inequality, corporate greed, the rising cost of housing or CoVid. Many decided that the rush of meth or heroin was better than the boring amenities of regular life and in the process burned every bridge behind them to where family oir friends just want NOTHING to do with them.
Sorry to be the bearer of real news, but these are the facts behind many of the “houseless neighbors” and yes, while there are some instances of mental illness in some cases, they get provided for.
Have any of you folks heard of “The Lofts” here in Isla Vista? It’s a $10,000,000 housing complex for mentally ill homeless folks and there’s many of them living there. We paid for it and of this, I am proud.
But coddling these firebugs high on meth or heroin? No, this is NOTHING to be proud of in any way whatsoever! ENOUGH!
FITZ, Santa Barbara will NEVER learn because it was Santa Barbara’s Homeless Inc. and the poverty pimps that rolled out the red carpet!
Remember that “homeless wellness assessment” survey done sometime back around 2013 or so? Where’s the results of that? SUPPRESSED!
Want to know why? Because if the results of that survey/assessment were released, it would be evident that the majority of the “houseless neighbors” in the area claiming to be locals are NOT locals!
They were shuttled here from other areas and Homeless Inc. and the poverty pimps welcomed them with open arms.
By the way, the ranks of Homeless Inc. goes WAY up the ladder and to many levels in city and county government.
The kooks are out in full force on this one.
CHILLINGRILLIN, I tried to fins a “HAHA” or smile emoji here, but Edhat doesn’t offer those. In any case… LOLOL! Don’t set any brush fires now!
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Well, CHILLIGRILLIN, the fact that you’re here responding is evidence that your comment is 100% correct! Don’t start any brush fires now!