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UC Santa Barbara Students Set up Camp to Peacefully Protest the War in Gaza
It's not a quote at all. If you google it., the only reference is Curmudgeon saying it above. It's simply his assertion, and putting it in quotes as if that somehow made it true is dishonest.
UC Santa Barbara Students Set up Camp to Peacefully Protest the War in Gaza
Virtually every expert on genocide, including Israeli experts, say that what is happening in Gaza is genocide.
UC Santa Barbara Students Set up Camp to Peacefully Protest the War in Gaza
"Most were all complicit with butchering the Israelis." This is simply a lie, and a ratiionalization of genocide.
UC Santa Barbara Students Set up Camp to Peacefully Protest the War in Gaza
The students aren't calling for forgiving and forgetting the 10/7 attack. Your comment and the upvotes are patently dishonest.
UC Santa Barbara Students Set up Camp to Peacefully Protest the War in Gaza
Yes it is kind of shocking how no one nearby will offer much help to the Palestinian people. One of the stated reasons Egypt and Jordan refuse to take Palestinian refugees even on a temporary basis is that they think that Israel will never allow them back into Gaza or anywhere else in their borders. The Palestinian population has been a punching bag for decades by everyone in the Middle East, starting first and worst with Israel. Israeli "settlers' have been forcefully taking over Palestinian homes, schools, orchards and farmland since the 1980s. They have reduced them to second class citizenship by taking away many rights, and have not seriously tried getting along in almost half a century. This conflict did not start in October of 2023
UC Santa Barbara Students Set up Camp to Peacefully Protest the War in Gaza
oh my dog that is a profoundly ignorant comparison. No, wait actually it's TWO profoundly ignorant comparisons. You are trying waaaay too hard, Sail. Wow. Maybe you can ask Admin to delete it for you?
UC Santa Barbara Students Set up Camp to Peacefully Protest the War in Gaza
Ha ha ha! Typical gun nut fantasy there.
UC Santa Barbara Students Set up Camp to Peacefully Protest the War in Gaza
Not quite sacjon. Armed citizens will become the militia to stand up and defend themself. Exactly why Ukraine has been able to defend itself. How the US will defend itself if attacked.
UC Santa Barbara Students Set up Camp to Peacefully Protest the War in Gaza
It would be hard to pressure universities to divest from Jordan, Iraq, Iran, etc. when they weren't contributing money to them in the first place. Israel, on the other hand, universities do fund in part, the US funds and arms. There is actually some sense of responsibility in the case of Israel. Essentially the student protests want divestment so that their hands can be clean, like they are with the states you mentioned.
UC Santa Barbara Students Set up Camp to Peacefully Protest the War in Gaza
Is this right? During ww2 we slaughtered tens of thousands of innocent Germans, while we should have been restricted to Nazis?
UC Santa Barbara Students Set up Camp to Peacefully Protest the War in Gaza
"And also I oppose the Netanyahu government, I oppose Israeli settler extremists, I oppose the current ground war in Gaza." - Good to hear. Blame the Arab countries all you want, but it doesn't change what's going on in Gaza and that's been my point. Glad we agree on that.
UC Santa Barbara Students Set up Camp to Peacefully Protest the War in Gaza
"The notion that this war could be fought with lower civilian casualties is a fantasy." - Only for you and those who can't even consider a lesser onslaught. Look, you've proclaimed your bias against the people of Gaza plenty. We're not going to agree and I'm not doing another back and forth with you, especially since you announced you were leaving here a while back..... Sorry, Alex, but I'm not.
UC Santa Barbara Students Set up Camp to Peacefully Protest the War in Gaza
Nah, it's pointing out the double standard. When the Jordanian kingdom killed 25k PLO no one really gave a shit. When Iraq and Iran killed a million people no one really gave a shit. When Syria murders hundreds of thousands of their own people no one gives a shit. When there is mass murder, ethnic cleansing and mass rape rape in Sudan and 25 million people are CURRENTLY facing starvation no one really gives a shit. Where are the protesters? Oh right, no Israel involved. And yeah, I will absolutely cast a certain amount of blame on Muslim countries which have funded and armed this war because they won't or can't take on Israel or the US directly. The fact is, if these puppet master nations wanted a sustainable peace and two state solution for the Palestinian people this could have happened decades ago. And also I oppose the Netanyahu government, I oppose Israeli settler extremists, I oppose the current ground war in Gaza.
UC Santa Barbara Students Set up Camp to Peacefully Protest the War in Gaza
You're saying that counterintelligence has advanced to the point that the Israeli military can determine where combatants are and where civilians are in an urban warfare setting? You think that urban warfare has changed in that regard? Show proof of that. How. When the US military was fighting Isis in Iraq, and specifically in Mosul, the estimates are that up to 40,000 civilians were killed. And I'm pretty sure that we have the technological capacity that Israel does. That wasn't ww2 and it was the most technologically advanced military force in history. The notion that this war could be fought with lower civilian casualties is a fantasy. None of that has anything to do with wether or not this war SHOULD be fought.
UC Santa Barbara Students Set up Camp to Peacefully Protest the War in Gaza
Hamas has had the same strategy around using civilians as shields. They have been public and clear about their willingness to trade lots of civilian blood for PR. That is literally their strategy. Have you read anything about their public statements on this? It's not hard to find. Beyond that--words in your mouth? You said "how do you know there isn't resistance". Your words. I said: "Have you seen any reports of resistance, I haven't." And that's me putting words in your mouth?
SpaceX Launch Sends More Starlink Satellites to Orbit on Thursday Evening
Not clear off of Baja, just heard from Rosario. They like to see the first stage land.
SpaceX Launch Sends More Starlink Satellites to Orbit on Thursday Evening
curious as to the delay's? Space❌ is currently showing; "Liftoff is targeted for 8:50 p.m. PT, with backup opportunities available until 9:42 p.m. PT. If needed, additional opportunities are also available on Thursday, May 9 starting at 8:20 p.m. PT." with similar results from SpaceFlightNow as well; "Launch time: 8:50 p.m." winds hovering between 4-9 mph currently clear sky 60 ish...
Former St. Anthony’s Seminary Listed for $50 Million to be Auctioned Off Next Month
Not necessarily. State legislators are once again finding ways to strip local control in order to force jurisdictions to upzone every last piece of land. They are now considering a bill to remove the protection of historic structures and districts allowing developers to build housing all around it even on it if “ respects the historical features” . Anyone who thought this RHNA cycle was horrendous wait until you see what HCD is recommending for the next.
Former St. Anthony’s Seminary Listed for $50 Million to be Auctioned Off Next Month
It will be sold to international buyers who will build a high end hotel. With its proximity to the mission, natural history museum and the botanical gardens, it’s a logical outcome. No way this will be housing or used for the greater good.
SpaceX Launch Sends More Starlink Satellites to Orbit on Thursday Evening
Launch time estimate now 7:52 PM PDT.