AnonymousSource: Santa Barbara Mayor Cathy Murillo
The city of Santa Barbara is processing two street renaming proposals, came in at the same time coincidentally. Details below.
Barbareno Chumash Tribal Council wants to change Indio Muerto to Hutash, which means Mother Earth.
The second application aims to honor Dolores Huerta by renaming San Andres to Calle Dolores Huerta.
The Neighborhood Advisory Council will make recommendations to City Council.
Send City your opinion: StreetRenaming@SantaBarbaraCA.gov
1. Rename Indio Muerto to “Hutash” :
Neighborhood Advisory Council: this item will be heard by the Neighborhood Advisory Council on August 10 at 6:00 pm.
Public Participation: those wishing to give public comment at the meeting can register with GotoWebinar at: https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/7475561273521910285 -Webinar ID – 347-086-347
This registration information will also be printed on the meeting agenda.
2. Rename San Andres Street to Calle Dolores Huerta:
Neighborhood Advisory Council: this item will be heard by the Neighborhood Advisory Council on August 24 at 6:00 pm.
Public Participation: those wishing to give public comment at the meeting can register with GotoWebinar at: https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/5238734609519318544 – Webinar ID 791-451-947
Provide Public Comment: StreetRenaming@SantaBarbaraCA.Gov
I’ve spoken to some residents and they don’t want it. They’ve even posted signs around the neighborhood that say NO. If you want to change a name, change your own name.
I’ve spoken to other residents and they are for it. They’ve obeyed sign laws and haven’t posted any illegal signage about it, but feel strongly about it. But thanks for the suggestion to change our names, we will consider it seriously.
I kind of believe PITMIX on this one…. nice try though 420722
Perhaps the Council could use Survey Monkey to query Santa Barbara residents about the name changes. The City of Goleta uses it all the time.
1:45 – That’s the difference between SB and Goleta. Our here, we get things done!
This is a horrible idea, will be a big hardship to the people in the neighborhood, and is pandering to the emotionality of the moment.
Get did of Indio Muerto if you must and think of it as a successful compromise.
Goleta employee unions don’t yet have the entrenched history like they do in Santa Barbara. Give it a few more years and you city employee unions will own you too, Goleta.
I suggest we consider no longer honoring a true oppressor and change the name of APS.
How Woke…
lol.
What would Mr. Mallott, Mr Miratti, Mr. Souza, Ms. Constantino, Mr. O’Reilly, Mr. Farren, Mr. Mazur, Mr. Jordano or George & Lucy say:)
All you name changing people are nuts!
KOHN1 – what if I had a restaurant called “Hitler’s BBQ?” How would you feel about a name change then? Or, if our city had an old street called “Midget Lynching Lane?” Maybe need a change? Hey, my name and my friends name, when combined, would be a great name for a cafe. I’m guessing you don’t mind us opening “Cafe Kike,” right?
I’m a resident of a street near San Andres, and I’m okay with renaming it. I find the anti signs annoying.
But there ISN’T a Hitler’s BBQ or Midget Lynching Lane. And what if LA Dodger Kike Hernandez opened Cafe Kike? I’m with KOHN1 on this one.
High COVID-19 numbers, inability of the local health department to get case numbers correct, inability of the county to enforce pretty much anything, skyrocketing crime, a massive homelessness problem that is contributing to fires and violence directed at local residents…and renaming a couple of streets is what they’re going to focus their time on. Unbelievable.
REX – no, there isn’t. But there WAS a Sambo’s, there IS an Indio Muerto and there are probably many many more examples of offensive names out there. The point is/was, just because YOU don’t find it offensive, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be changed.
My only concern would be is the food good and are the prices fair and think to myself hmm a name like that will surely trigger the fruitcakes.
SANDY1 – so you’re saying you would go to a restaurant called Hitler’s Cafe and smugly think how “fruitcakes” will be offended? What “fruitcakes” do you believe would be offended by such a name? Seriously, it’s ok, you can say it. Who are these “fruitcakes” offended by Hitler’s BBQ? We’re all anonymous here – go on and say it……
I am regularly drive through this neighborhood, often on San Andres. I object to the suggested change. It is in fact a form of colonialism. Outsiders have decided that locals should want the new name. It is the outsiders’ initiative, not those of the people who live on and use this street. Leave it alone unless the users want change. With regard to Indio Muerto I suppose it is in bad taste. So go ahead and look at the idea. But if people on that street oppose it, stop.
Survey Monkey captures and uses data from its participants. It should never be used by public agencies who we hope will protect the privacy of the people.
Who are these “fruitcakes”. O I don’t know , could be…
AIM is an old name from the 60s/70s, I bet they would not choose it now. Native American is what I hear most often.
A-1597262859 AUG 12, 2020 01:07 PM——- According to Christina Biava, PhD Linguistics, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (1991)
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These are 2 different words.**************************
“Hippie” is a noun. It developed in the 1960s as a slang variant of the word “hipster,” which referred to someone who was quite up-to-date and aware of new styles. The word hipster itself came from the word “hep,” a slang word describing, similar to “hep,” a person who was ”in the know” when it came to styles, music especially. The origin of “hep” is unknown, but the word became popularized by early jazz musicians in the 1910s and 1920s. (Note how “hippie” came to have a rather different meaning than “hipster.” That is, while the connotation of “hipster” was positive, “hippie” took on a disparaging meaning).
“Hippy” is an adjective that describes a person with broad hips; it comes from the noun “hip.”
@ 5:36 great post.
I think it’s a dispacable waste of tax payers money and people’s time and hard earned money. This is a feel good project. Let me remind you the city is in a deficit and many businesses are struggling to stay open. People are out of work. This change will cost real significant money to the city, to the business owners, renters, residents and property owners who live and work on San Andres street.
32 businesses will be affected by this
2 churches
156 other structures that’s a mix between homes and dense apartment buildings. This will affect overall around 1000 people along this corridor.
Cost to home owners and renters: (Expenses you will have to pay out of pocket if this change is passed)$548.00
Cost to business owners: At a minimum $518.00
Real cost to the city: (your wasted tax dollars) $10,000.00
City costs: $10,000.00
Per Business cost: $518 x 32 = $16,576.00
Per resident cost: 1000 x $548.00 = $548,000.00
Total costs for name change to San Andres street: $574,576.00
Now ask yourself why the city is in a deficit. The answer is simple, because our current council members keep supporting and pushing unnecessary financially irresponsible changes like this upon our community.
You are really going overboard on how serious these problems are. SKYROCKETING crime. MASSIVE homelessness. VIOLENCE directed at residents. What neighborhood do you live in so I can make sure to stay away from it? My westside neighborhood has not changed at all. Really, what is the point of your hyperbole? Does it make it more likely these problems will be solved?
People keep bring this up like it is a real thing. It is not. The law changing the name allows you to keep the original documents until you need to change them for some other reason, like selling your house. Then it is part of the transaction and doesn’t cost you anything. There is some small cost to change the street signs up front, but that is it. But I guess spreading misinformation is helpful if it supports your cause. We are used to it by now.
Source for this info. My search does not show this is a real thing.
What does Dolores Huerta think about renaming the street in honor of her? Has anyone asked her about this? My guess is that she would not really be interested in having something RE-named after her. Kind of like receiving an engagement ring that was originally purchased for someone else…..basically, “leftovers.” How about something “new and shiny” (new street/park/library/clinic/school) for her rather than changing a perfectly good/historic street name and making 99% of those affected angry? The last thing I’d think she’d want is to have her name thought of in negative light.
They should change it to Muerto Cabeza to honor the greatest of the summer of love leader…Jerry Garcia.
Hardy har har. In Spanish it would be Cabeza Muerto, but I would not expect a hippy to be detail oriented.
I think we have far more pressing problems to discuss and solve before even considering street names.
Leave it.
Indio means indian, right? Because Columbus thought he had arrived in India but was off by a few thousand miles. I bet Indio St makes very few people happy.
A-1597255921 AUG 12, 2020 11:12 AM—–It’s “detail-oriented,” with a hyphen. And: A long-haired 60s flower child was a “hippie.” “Hippy” is an adjective describing someone with wide hips.
Oh my goodness, yet another neochumash group stealing away identity.
Barbareno Chumash Tribal Council was an offshoot of the coastal band of the chumash nation back in the 90s. When they broke off they followed leaders who didnt agree with the cbcn. Eventually those leaders proved to beess than who they claimed. The followers were actual lineal santa Barbara chumash descendants from villages in santa Barbara. They say they got tired of the leadership and also found out they those leaders were lacking any actual chumash blood so they split off in the early 2000’s. This new group is called the Barbareño band of chumash indians.
THE Barbareño band of chumash indians have actual documentation showing they come from villages in the city of sb. One of the members is Ernestine Desoto-yee and she is a direct descendant to the last recorded chumash wot of the village of syuxtun, Yanonali.
So when folks say sb chumash tribe should be part of this, the Barbareño band of chumash indians should be consulted as a matter of protocol before anyone from the Barbareno Chumash Tribal Council attempts to take cultural credit.
This relates to a recent podcast that discusses how neochumash have taken over in an attempt to claim chumash identity for some cause that will grant them public exposure to further support their claim to be chumash.
Take some time to watch this podcast that exposes neochumash and the things they do to fool you all.
https://www.facebook.com/PollenNationMag/videos/291581435480575/
The correct santa Barbara chumash should be consulted http://www.bbcindians.com.
The Barbareno Chumash Tribal Council may have a member or so that do have chumash blood but when its leaders are in question then it raises a question about motives especially when they are not acquiring the support of the actual lineal descendants.
One day this will no longer be a problem. A current bill is in the works called HR 5268 which aims to prevent groups from claiming to be native without proof. This should keep these groups from making public claims like they do and being able to access contracts or funding that should only go to those who can provide documentation showing descendantcy.
Right now the folks who are descendants have no problem showing their genealogy but ask a neochumash to show you the paperwork and they get all defensive.
Only suggestion to the neighborhood council is to ask the Barbareño band of chumash indians to comment. Heck ask Ernestine she lives only a few blocks between both streets. If City folks want to do things right they should start there.