Recall Newsom Rally in Montecito

September 13, 2021, 12:57 pm 16.3k Views 99 Comments

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A bipartisan group rallied in Montecito in support of recalling Gov. Gavin Newsom Friday, September 10, 2021.

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  4. I find it entertaining if anyone posts ANY political viewpoint other than the DOMINANT Democrat rule, and I mean 95% ruling political party in now, a very changed California, the comments are down voting and ridiculed at “Trump” voters… LOL~ I guess everyone’s political GOAL is 100% domination over the people… That is scary.

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  8. OMG Sac, I don’t think you could put more hypocrisy and false information in two sentences. You do know the FBI released their report regarding 1/6, and it doesn’t match your false rhetoric? And were you camping out of internet range all last summer to miss the looting, rioting, and burring of police stations egged on by ever member of the left that was looking to score some woke political points? I can’t even with you….

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  9. VOICE – 1) This isn’t about the summer riots. Whataboutism, so stop it. 2) attacking our capitol was insurrection. No, Trump didn’t say “go attack the capitol,” but he sure as heck took his sweet time telling them to stop after he whipped the low-IQ fools into frenzy saying Congress is “stealing” their election. Nuances and subtleties, man. They’re important.

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  10. Uhhh Tom Bradley, a person of color ran for governor in 1982 and 1986 in a normal general election. Memo to the Pro Recall protestors: making the traffic worse than it already is with your demonstration is a horrible way to get votes.

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  11. SBREADER – Does the makeup of the group truly matter? What is important is that this is (another) group of people tired of Newsom’s incompetence and failure to act in the best interest of all Californians. There are a significant number of people that have heard of Larry Elder, enough that support Elder and prompted this recall election. Larry Elder will replace Newsom as Governor of California.

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  12. Sac, I think elder will be able to ease covid restrictions and mask rules, help reduce the cost of utilities, start the process of improving our water infrastructure, start the process of improving forest management so we can finally put a stop to all these “mega fires,” start the process of improving road and freeway infrastructure to mitigate traffic congestion, reduce restrictive regulations on property development to facilitate the construction of new housing, reduce the cost of gasoline, reduce the cost of vehicle registration, and much much more. I think elder could accomplish a lot in a year. What has newsom accomplished to improve our lives?

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  15. OMG Voice of Unreason, there is no FBI report regarding 1/6 that has exonerated Trump or his people of guilt for attack on the capitol. All that you heard about on Fox News was information from “sources” in the FBI. Baaaaaa baaaaa sheepie.

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  16. Let’s go Elder! So encouraging to see that there are enough sensible people in California to get this recall on the books and a chance for a terrible governor out of here. California will be red again one day if the democratic party keeps their destructive (and self destrutive) habits up. The libs should be happy too since Gavin’s most possibly replacement is African American!

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  17. CHIP – those things sound good, good luck with that! Does Larry have a great forest sweeping plan? Maybe an “in” with some broom manufacturers?
    But seriously…. “ease covid restrictions and mask rules” — why? How many restrictions do you see in place these days? Kids are back in school, youth sports are back, pro sports are back, all businesses are open. So, again, what “covid restrictions” still need easing? Are people really still whining about muh freedoms?

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  18. It must be nice living with hands over your eyes and fingers in your ears ignoring half of reality, you didn’t even google FBI 1/6. No wonder you guys think everything is hunky dory in CA and our governor has done a good job. Sac when you bring up violence against police instigated by politicians, the summer riots and associated violence that was openly encourage by current members of the house and senate is absouteltly fair game and not whataboutsim. You also clearly haven’t actually read anything about the timeline from 1/6 and continue to parrot snippets from the media. I bet you didn’t even listen or read his speech that day in full, just a few 5 second soundbites carefully selected by the talking head you so on TV so now you’re an expert and know more than the FBI.

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  21. VOICE – whataboutism, your favorite and, usually only, response. Not engaging with this level of dishonesty.
    But, since I can’t just walk away (as you tend to do), here you go: “The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result” —– yep, read that again. It has NOTHING to do with, nor does it conclude that Trump in no way instigated, encouraged, supported, failed to stop, etc etc the violent insurrection against our democracy. In fact, that it was not an organized and planned, premeditated attack, lends even MORE credence to the idea that the insurrection was the result of an inflammatory and bombastic event (gee, I wonder what….) that fed lies and paranoid rhetoric into a crowd of agitated and gullible rioters who were clearly ready for violence. To say Trump had nothing to do with the cowardly attack on my government is intellectually dishonest and treasonous, if you ask me.
    And I don’t give a rats &&^ about every word in his speech, he knew what he was doing. He’d been doing it for over 4 years. His people wanted to fight, he told them to “If you don’t fight like hell you’re not going to have a country anymore” and “We’re going to the Capitol!” as if to rally them behind him. Sadly, the poor fools thought they were truly an army of patriots being led into battle by a pathetic cowards.
    No man, you’re just wrong.

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  22. VOICE – just this and I’m done. Trump may not have said to his followers (no one else was listening) to “drink bleach,” but his comment about injecting it sure influenced them….
    “A new survey from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that 4% of respondents consumed or gargled diluted bleach solutions, soapy water and other disinfectants in an effort to protect themselves from the coronavirus……The survey, which consisted of more than 500 participants, was conducted in May – after President Donald Trump’s widely criticized coronavirus task force briefing in April in which he pondered the use of disinfectants to treat the virus.” —- https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-06-05/cdc-some-people-did-take-bleach-to-protect-from-coronavirus

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  24. Everybody keeps going on about their “rights” and “freedoms”…. again, as I’ve posted multiple times…. You CANNOT have a society that provides “freedoms” without a corresponding amount of “responsibility”. You know how, if you’re a store manager or owner, you get more money, and more leeway to do things that the line employees don’t. However, you are also the one who has to stay late, come in if someone doesn’t show, and ultimately, the buck stops with you. This situation is NO DIFFERENT. All these people protesting about how their “freedoms” are being violated haven’t engaged in ONE BIT of social responsibility in regards to an epidemic that has literally killed hundreds of thousands of people. Its so frustrating….
    And I’m not saying that Newsom is some holy grail of governance; he violated his own orders for his own personal desires, and in doing such, did a HORRIBLE job at being a leader who “leads from the front”, and he should be taken to task for that. But the rest of these people are simply acting out emotionally, without comprehending the fact that as MEMBERS OF A SOCIETY, they have a SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY to inconvenience themselves for the good of the society as a whole, ergo wearing masks, social distancing, and GETTING THE DAMNED VACCINE!!!!
    If y’all REALLY wanna live in a “society” where you can have all you want, yet give nothing in return, the bottom line is that the mighty and the rich will come out on top EVERY TIME. Ask yourself; is that REALLY the type of society you wanna live in?
    Get over yourself and your self proclaimed “freedom”, and realize that “the freedom to swing your arm ends at the tip of my nose.”
    And, yet, once again, I leave you with the following quote:
    “Both for practical reasons and for mathematically verifiable moral reasons, authority and responsibility must be equal – else a balancing takes place as surely as current flows between points of unequal potential. To permit irresponsible authority is to sow disaster; to hold a man responsible for anything he does not control is to behave with blind idiocy. The unlimited democracies were unstable because their citizens were not responsible for the fashion in which they exerted their sovereign authority… other than through the tragic logic of history… No attempt was made to determine whether a voter was socially responsible to the extent of his literally unlimited authority. If he voted the impossible, the disastrous possible happened instead – and responsibility was then forced on him willy-nilly and destroyed both him and his foundationless temple.”
    -Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers

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  25. Also (once again):
    ” And THAT was the soft spot which destroyed what was in many ways an admirable culture… their citizens… glorified their mythology of ‘rights’… and lost track of their duties. No nation, so constituted, can endure.”
    ~Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers

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  26. Elder thinks women and people of color complain too much. What century does THAT leave him in? None and I mean NONE of the challenger candidates have the skillset for governorship. For better or worse, Gavin Newsom should stay–and this ridiculous recall procedure needs an overhaul.

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  28. Sac, 1st: Not siding with or saying anything that happened at the capital was okay. That said, Yeah, read the transcript… or just a non-right-wing media fact check.
    AP FACT CHECK: Trump’s call to action distorted in debate
    https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-trump-us-capitol-remarks-221518bc174f9bc3dd6e108e653ed08d
    Just a bunch of crazies that got riled up, just like the riots. I’m 100% against ALL of it. They should all be rounded up and prosecuted! At least the capital ones are, but they all should be. Unfortunately, it’s all political.
    #2: You can’t have a conversation go from a hand full of people holding signs to get people to vote their way, then to trump, then accuse another about whataboutism.
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  41. This is a pretty small group. Looks like maybe 2 dozen. They seem to be the crowd that follows Elder around. Probably paid to do so but may be just enthusiasts. One cannot trust any of this anymore as we know that politicians regularly hire folks to make a showing. (The ethics of those taking the money is another question–Trump began his candidacy with hired NY models and actors watching him descend the escalator. Pretty likely he also hired the “Black for Trump” persona that was de riguer at every rally right behind him.) So don’t be too impressed by this sort of small event.

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  45. VOR, you hate government and yet the government has been literally supporting all the people claim to care about.
    Rational people understand that the Pandemic was and is a no win situation, it’s simply a calculation trading off lives for economic vitality and letting kids school in person.
    More dead people equals fewer shut downs and more kids in school. Fewer deaths equals more shut downs and fewer kids in school. And by the way, kids are now dying from Delta.
    It’s a terrible situation, people who are trying to burn down the government and our Democracy as a response are only making it worse.

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  46. This EDD? The one that sent out over $30 Billion (with a B) in fraudulent claims while having nearly 1 million claims backlogged (meaning the people who needed it didn’t get it). The one that Newsom and CA was warned about as being antiquated and ripe for fraud and failure? https://www.kcra.com/article/edd-backlog-and-fraud-timeline-how-we-got-here-california-unemployment-jobless-covid-19/35312619#
    You’re correct on the deaths, but that would mean our NPI’s saved lives and the jury is still out on that when adjusting for age and counting all the deaths as a result of NPI’s as evidenced by the states and countries around that world that didn’t take such extreme measures.

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  47. Contrary to all the false accusations of tyrant and dictator, you’re right, Trump never forced anyone to do anything they didn’t want. Our current prez and VP said they wouldn’t take or trust a vaccine developed under Trump (they lied but many of their followers believed them) so you can rationally extrapolate how they and their followers would feel if Trump mandated it. Babycakes was 100% correct there, simply because Al and Jesse are known throughout the US, (of course they’re also darlings of the MSM and wouldn’t hesitate to use the opportunity for additional publicity). For you to argue what Babycakes wrote isn’t what would happen is simply false, I know you know that but here you are trying to argue otherwise. Good day sir.

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  49. VOICE – “Because my example actually happened,” – again, when did Donald Trump “force people” to get a vaccine, any vaccine? You said it happened, so please remind us when that was.
    And re: your fallacious assumptions, well, you can keep on assuring yourself of whatever you want, but before you run away, again, understand that, despite your “mastery” of reason, you have ZERO way of proving that everyone would react in any way to an event that has not happened.
    Finally, Babycakes was not “100% correct” about a scenario that, again, HAS NOT HAPPENED. He didn’t didn’t just say Al and Jesse would get more publicity and there would be more outraged for a hypothetical, yet elaborate and specific future event involving white women in monkey masks, he said Elder received “not a peep” and the media “ignored” the actual event, that was somehow plastered all over the news.
    That’s all, I’m done. Your disingenuous claims and “rebuttals” have finally exhausted me.

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  51. I really really REALLY want Newsom recalled for so many reasons but, when it comes to Covid, I am concerned because I don’t want to see us end up like Texas and Florida, with high cases b/c everyone takes off their mask even if unvaccinated or refuses vaccines, etc. Insight on this from reasonable folks would help me to decide today.

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  54. Florida and Texas aren’t any worse than neighboring blue states, it only seems that way with how the media reports it (look at those dumb red states while ignoring the blue states next door also spiking). It is a complete illusion that all the mandates had anything but a nominal impact on the virus spread. Oregon had stricter mandates than CA and they just had a big spike, we went full on last fall and still had a big spike. No one can point to data over the past 18 months and say this state did better than that state because they had stricter mandates.

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  55. I like this part of your quote 1660, especially alongside the fact that we can’t control a virus no matter how much we want to (or blindly follow politicians who claim they can). “ To permit irresponsible authority is to sow disaster; to hold a man responsible for anything he does not control is to behave with blind idiocy.”

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  57. Today the rightwing losers will lose again and they’ll cry and scream and whine and complain that they’re victims… poor babies. But here’s the thing: If you’re not making tons of money right now, you’re never, ever, ever going to… And that’s 100% on you. Its 100% due to your choices, your doings and your life. So if we’re in the best economy in history, with the most opportunities to become fabulously wealthy, then why are you so miserable? Because you are simply not the person you think you are…that’s why. FYI – Life is what happens while you’re complaining to your spouse about politicians and how they’re the ones holding you back… Doers do, complainers complain and loser lose… Which one are you VOR, Chip and OGSB? We know. But do you?

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  60. There are other options than public school, like private school, or home schooling and even states that don’t require immunizations. Our president would like to force everyone in the US to inject themselves with something if they want to hold a job. Except of course the White House, congress, USPS, they’re exempt because “Science TM”!

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  61. Andrea, the vaccines work. If you have the vaccine, you don’t need to worry about the unvaccinated. What many here fail to realize, is if you acquiesce now to the government taking this much control over your life, taking control of your medical decisions, simply because you agree with them, next time you may not agree with them but have already seceded control. Many vocal posters here would be screaming, at the top of their lungs, if it was Trump mandate the exact same vaccine. Don’t fall into their hypocrisy trap, trust yourself, trust the vaccine, and don’t allow the government to take even more control of your life, your business, your children.

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  64. More VOR misinformation. Plus geographically challenged too. Because Florida is surrounded by Georgia and Alabama, which are controlled by Republican Governors and Legislatures. Do you really want to go on record as calling them Blue States?
    BTW, Statistica shows the states with the current highest rates of infections and Oregon isn’t among them….https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109004/coronavirus-covid19-cases-rate-us-americans-by-state/

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  65. That is a disgusting comment SBO and a slap in the face to the millions of working class who had their livelihoods snuffed out due to our governor’s actions the past 18 months. It’s an insult to those that came into the pandemic with little to no savings and had their job shut down as “non essential”, and you say it’s 100% on them? To the millions of kids who are now even further behind in school and may never catch up, their earning power is forever reduced because of our governors poor decisions, it’s 100% due to their or their or their parents choices? If you think Chip, OGSB and I comment here because we don’t make enough money you’re sadly mistaken and haven’t actually listed to a word we’ve said. You are simply not a good human being.

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  67. I’m a registered Democrat voting for Larry Elder. He has a strong following and a good chance of winning. Gavin Newsome is a tool owned by big money special interests. Larry Elder will give us school choice, clean up the homeless camps, and stop letting criminals out of prison.

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  69. That ruling does not mean what you think it does. The president can not mandate a vaccine for the entire US, the office does not have that power. Would you want the president to have that much power? I know for a fact you’d be singing a very different tune if Trump were the one forcing people. So many here act like their preferred party are infallible and will forever be in control. What power you give them now you also give future politicians you may not be so enamored with.

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  70. Now that we’ve disposed of this bunch of recall morons, it’s time to reform the recall process so it can’t so easily be perverted by external bad actors trying to dismantle our government by funding actions that attempt to paralyze it.

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  72. VOICE – “I know for a fact you’d be singing a very different tune if Trump were the one forcing people.” — Is that like complaining about Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson getting more media coverage than Elder if they were egged? There’s a name for that fallacy…..

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  73. Oh please. Dont pretend you care about other people when everything you write, everything you say, all of your “positions” and your chosen politicians / talk show hosts, say and do the exact opposite… You are fooling no one with your fake outrage VOR. Well, that’s not exactly true, you are definitely fooling yourself. You can call me names, blame me or Newsom or some other Pol for your own misery, but its not going to change the reality. Your life and your happiness are 100% due to your actions, choices and most importantly, mindset. Wallow all you want, but know that no one cares that your life sucks.

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  76. Gotta love how Elder’s campaign accidentally premature posted to a website that “preemptively conceded defeat and baselessly claim voter fraud BEFORE Tuesday’s California gubernatorial recall election”. It’s wild that the whole voter fraud thing could even gain traction given this state has nearly twice as many registered Democrats vs. Republicans.

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  82. JOESIXPACK – that’s communist thinking! Better Red than Dem! Besides, we all know elections are all fraudulent and corrupt, well….unless the Republican candidate wins. Soros is pulling the strings! Biden wants to control you and listen to your phone calls!

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  83. um Chip….that all sounds good to you? easing mandated mask requirements? so you want a state like other red states that have soaring COVID deaths? Really? Go to Florida then dude. Or Texas. Stay there. So is Elder going to talk to the clouds and make more rain happen and more el ninos? no he can’t and won’t. Improving forest management? How? Following that idiot Trumps suggestion of raking the forest? It’s caused by drought. Also by weather. Also by idiots playing with fire. It’s random. So no, Elder can’t stop or controll that either. Next item, freeway infrastructure? our freeways have been under improvement construction for over 25 years. So that has already happened under someone else’s term. Reduce restrictions on property development. Ok, so build build build. Then what? Wait for a rainstorm to destroy the big homes that were freshly built on cliffs and protected bluffs and in protected open space areas? Right. Just turn it all into concrete so the developers can build more housing that very few can afford or want, being built on once protected lands. Reduce the cost of gasoline? By removing all of the emission controls we have in our fuel? Yeah let’s erase any positive progress that we have made in 20 years, just so you can save maybe $3.00 per station visit. Right.
    You ask what Newsome has done to improve our lives? Well let’s see, i’ll start and end with the same point. He forced idiots like yourself to wear a mask, even though you think you know more than doctors and scientists and virologists, so others don’t get the virus and die. I DON’T CARE THAT HE WENT TO A FANCY DINNER. Good for him. That’s on his time, he can do what he wants. You’re also trying to grade newsome during a pandemic when everything has fallen apart and during a 4 year terrible presidency that bashed our state and tried to withhold funding. Newsome is managing the 5th largest economy on EARTH. He’s doing as good as anyone can. The points you make are baffling but predictable considering you think Trump was a good president.

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  84. so the new thing with republicans is that they try to play the game and then they lose, when they lose they cry foul and say someone cheated. Really??? How about the reality that you just didn’t get the votes that your over inflated ego told you, you would get? The Sore Loser Party is just sad as ever. Got the left griping about this and that and the right whining like babies when they lose.
    all of this solidifies my plan to buy a sailboat and get as far away from this mess as one can….bon voyage~~~

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  85. BABY – Not sure why our comments keep being deleted, but I’m not filled with hate. You make comments that I disagree with, most times vehemently, and I point out the flaws. I get it’s frustrating to be called out for racist or just nonsensical claims, but it your going to serve it up, don’t freak out so much if I respond with my thoughts. Prayers and namaste to you.

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  86. VOICE – ” If you have the vaccine, you don’t need to worry about the unvaccinated” – WRONG. As you’ve pointed out many times, the vaccines aren’t 100% effective. People are still being hospitalized and dying, albeit vaccinated, so you DO still need to be aware and concerned about the unvaccinated spreading to you.. Further, if you are vaccinated and are immunocompromised, you very much need to worry about being infected.
    Stop spreading verifiable lies.

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  91. that number is certainly inflated but yes… a waste! Hopefully newsome doesn’t double down on a lot of his a lot of his crazy agenda because there is genuine and widespread anger and disappointment in newsome. Elder though was obviously a lunatic. Need a more moderate dem in 2022.

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  98. and now this is over, the republicants need to go to their corner and pipe down a bit. stop whining and crying foul. All you do is look like simple minded fools when you lose and whine. Math doesn’t lie. Numbers are numbers. I’ve said it before and will say it again, california is near impossible to govern, look deeply at the history. 5th largest economy on the planet, it’s running a massive business. 1 person can never do a perfect job in this state and that is fact. I don’t care about newsomes dinner outting, just like i didn’t care about Clinton getting a BJ. None of my business, and it’s not part of their job, it’s personal affairs and matters. if newsome wants to go to burger king in oakland on a friday night during a lockdown, that’s his agenda and problem, i will not be affected by their personal choices, nor will you. newsome is just another slimy politician, just like any other. doesn’t matter if they are blue or red, left or right, they aren’t US, they are politicians. PEople sure love to believe anything they WANT to hear. So Eldar and Trump party people love to be told just what they want to hear, even if it’s not going to happen and is so far from reality that there is a better chance monkeys will fly out of my @ss. its over, carry on. there is no voting fraud. it’s called simply, you lost.

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