By an edhat reader
Why is the city and center of the Earth Day movement not outraged by the use of gunpowder pyrotechnics on the 4th of July?
Why are we not following the way with drones?
Thoughts on Gunpowder Pyrotechnics?
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July 9, 2023, 1:38 am
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Agree.
“Outraged”? It’s the social contract, certain days are earmarked for fun so you can enjoy the rest of the year bothered by gas leaf blowers 😛
Stupid things are allowed, so we should keep doing them!
I say yes for the drones. But, they must be followed up by a good dose of things that go “boom” in the night sky. And, for us to know the show is over, there still has to be many, many booms, spaced apart and louder with more color in the sky. With drones it’s just lights out, no booms.
If one can invent a drone with lights why can’t audio and surround sound be added for special effects?
Until such time as one billion Chinese and another billion Indians reduce their carbon footprints.
Until such time as we build more nuclear power plants (hopefully with the new cleaner method under development.)
Until such time as crypto server farms are made energy efficient.
Until such time as energy production is increased to fulfill the “green” EV charging stations.
Until such time as bovine flatulence is pumped underground.
Until such time… etc., etc. (Add your own item to this list.)
Until such time comes to pass, a little gunpowder pyrotechnics will bring joy to many while failing to generate material harm to us all.
Que sera, sera.
Don’t worry – be happy!
Stupid. “Do nothing unless everything is solved”
Curmudgeon, many here don’t like facts and prefer to ignore these realities while banning gas stoves and plastic straws locally so they can feel like they’re actually doing something good for the environment, even though it has literally no impact whatsoever on our climate or environment. Ignorance is bliss I guess, and a luxury of the privileged.
1:12 – Explains why he is so blissful.
10:55 pm, I suspect that you are missing the point. I see no suggestion at all of do nothing until everything is solved. What I see is a suggestion that we emphasize solving the problems that are with us every day and every moment in every home and business in America and which therefore have huge impacts and leave alone the fireworks which occur once a year for an hour or less and which for that matter only tend to happen once per community when they happen at all and which may have minimal long term impact anyway.
Lol. “I don’t when people don’t agree with me so I will make rude conjectures in response.”
10:55 – Yes, JAK had it correct. The implication of my comment is not entirely obvious if a reader is a bit obtuse.
3 December’s ago, the City of Solvang did a Christmas (I mean “Winterfest”) Drone light show that was absolutely amazing… I, too like fireworks, but if you have a professional drone show with hundreds of drones that are in sync and computer controlled, it’s a pretty damn good aerial display.
I would love to see a good drone show but for now they are hard to find.
Perhaps that is cost driven. A quick look at the ads for such drone shows each one starting at $500 or so and even a wimpy minimal show requires almost a hundred with good shows using closer to a thousand. Plus the cost of control systems and software. Municipal fireworks shows can run under a grand for a complete minimal show for a small town up to a hundred grand for a few of the biggest cities. (Though I understand that the Capitol Mall shows during the Trump era cost about a third of a million).
Give it a decade and we will probably both get to see drone based aerial shows from time to time. Unlike fireworks, you can “shoot” the same drones over and over.
The reason I may be more fond of drones is the thought that when morons take their dogs to the beach, the drones may not TERRORIZE the dogs! Keep your dogs SAFE during the fireworks!!!
Well…it is supposed to represent seeing the flag through the rockets red glare but few care about the history.
I fondly watched the fireworks this year knowing that drones will probably take over soon.
I have nostalgia for fireworks as I bet most boomers do.
Replacing plastic straws with collapsing paper straws, recycling (which basically just makes people feel better but makes a larger carbon footprint than just burying the stuff) or banning some fireworks once in a while, especially on the Fourth is NOT going to solve the problem. We are a drop in a bucket of pollution compared to China and India.
That same old, tired, whataboutism the cons alway deploy.
We’ve visited the pier only twice to view the July 4 fireworks. Both times the view was partially obscured by fog, which seemed to make the smoke more intense. A drone show simulating fireworks would be amazing!
I don’t think it’s to fog that exacerbates the smoke, but the conditions that support the existence of fog. . Meaning, little to no wind.
https://www.livescience.com/62835-weirdest-fireworks-injuries-ever.html
Blowing up drones with gunpowder is a great idea!
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GREGOREO.. agree also people don’t seem to mind year round toxic laundry detergent and dryer sheets, and wood fireplaces. These are toxic and year round.
It’s not quite the same thing, but yes, there are an awful lot of things that we ought to address that emit toxins daily, and probably shouldn’t be allowed at all. I hate the stinky laundry stuff that infiltrates whole neighborhoods!
Pick one, (mutually exclusive):
1: Respect and Empathy for Veterans & pets.
2: Embrace harmful traditions.
Uh . . . Not “one day out of the year.” Parade of Lights event sets off fireworks, too. And now, every year, we have dickwads setting off booming fireworks all over town —- days and days AFTER the 4th. Fortunately, our present dog isn’t reactive. Years ago our one Heeler/Chow Chow tried to hurl herself out the upper story window, thanks to neighbors “entertaining” their kids with poppers. Please find some other way to keep your little one enchanted. Something that doesn’t involve polluting air quality, scaring the bejesus out of animals, terrifying people who suffer from PTSD, and keeping people awake who need to get to work in the morning.
How about fun and joy for kids??? Is that a choice? My 3 1/2 year old daughter LOVES the fireworks. Can she enjoy traditions that previous generations had, or is she just left to enjoy the political culture wars, inflation, and crumbling infrastructure the previous generations left us with? It’s one day out of the year…put some earplugs in, put your pups in a room, and suck it up party poopers.
Kids with poppers!?!?! Oh great heavens!!You don’t say! …”Pee-pee boys”? uhh ok whatever that means. Sure…”Sorry sweetheart, this year we’re not going to watch the fireworks or have any fun with sparklers because somebody on edhat suggested we find something else to do instead. Now go put your earmuffs on and enjoy your kale chips!” Suck it up buttercup. Please go shake your fist at the sky and find something else to complain about. I’ll stick with hotdogs, burgers, sparklers and making memories with my kids. Santa Barbara…the whining capital of the world.
Stupid things are allowed, I’ve always done them, don’t make me stop. Brilliant!
It would be a lot more acceptable if it WAS just one night, but I’m still hearing them around midnight. Not fun pretty ones, just booms. I’m over it, have been for many years.
A-1689007706 3 JUL 10, 2023 09:48 AM. Please take my upvote. So sick and tired of these pee-pee boys setting off fireworks all over town —– just so they can terrify animals and annoy people.
PITA, moronic “boom” freaks.
I’ve heard 2 more tonight, one in my neighborhood, close enough that I could hear the retort, the sound waves, receding for 2-3 seconds. Damn them.
Yea, westside, heard and saw it too. Looked around Valerio and Robbins area.
Well, look into the amount of pollution one container ship/oil taker makes crossing the pacific ocean from China/Middle East. Fireworks on one day out of the year is not going to do anything but keep hitting the Amazon feeder bar…
https://thenewglobalorder.com/newsroom/cargo-ships-pollution-impact-on-environment-and-human-health/
11:22 – Just more con whataboutism. Don’t do anything good if anyone else is doing something bad. That’s real smart.
Speak for yourself — I’ve ordered from Amazon 3 times, once during the first year of the pandemic. Not all of us are junk-happy consumers.
And yet, we were discussing something that does have an impact on the problem. Don’t throw in a whatabout to distract from the subject.
No @4:00, do whatever you like, just don’t force everyone else, via feel good legislation, to take measures that don’t actually have an impact on the problem.