By an edhat reader
Bikers beware. There is a nasty pot hole on Modoc near Modoc Preserve.
A bicyclist crashed due to the pot hole.
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Perhaps he swerved into the pothole to avoid all the broken glass that yahoos in cars throw into the bike lanes. Bike lands in S.B are just trash dumps for morons in cars.
MICHAEL – you should come check out Cathedral Oaks. I and my kids ride along there a lot and the bike lanes are great. Problem is, we also have the spandex bunch who like to blow through all the stop signs and ride 2 or more abreast, causing drivers to have to swerve into on coming traffic at some curves (near Los Carneros for example). Please share the road.
Yeah you’re going to crash if you roll a 10 speed through that and aren’t paying attention.
Looks like the pothole is not in the “bike lane” part of the road.
Seems well deserved to me because I personally hate the people who bike like they own the road and expect cars to go over the center to go around them.
Instead of worrying about the potholes in the road let’s worry about the PITAs on the bikes that don’t know simple driving etiquette.
SBTONER – You’re happy someone was injured? Damn…. messed up. I’m not a fan of spandex warriors myself, but rejoicing in their pain is greasy.
“Seems well deserved to me” – your words. Explain how I’m twisting them.
Sac – Twisting words as always.
I am glad that this person will probably not be on the streets for at least a few days. And by on I mean in the middle of, outside of the bike lane, affecting road safety.
Roads as in you know, where cars go. Not bikes.
SBLOSER – you’re really a slowpoke, ain’t ya?
Well, terrible either way. What a rotten view of things.
Sac at 1:15, I do find myself wondering if he’s trolling or if he’s 100% sincere. Terrible if it’s the latter.
“Looks like the pothole is not in the “bike lane” part of the road.”
Yes, because there is no bike lane at that point in the road–there is a broken white line which allows cars to move toward the curb to make a right turn onto Encore Dr., and allows bicycles to cross into the next lane as they approach the left turn onto the Obern trail.
“the people who [drive] like they own the road”
That’s a “you” problem.
“and expect cars to go over the center to go around them.”
That’s illegal if the center is a double yellow line. The proper behavior is to slow down and line up behind the bicycle, as you would do for a tractor, a hay wagon, traffic slowed due to road work, etc.
” the PITAs […] that don’t know simple driving etiquette.”
That’s a “you” problem.
VOR, so you won’t call out a dik who takes pleasure in someone being physically injured in a bike accident because this person “hates” how some people bike. SO much hate, SBStoner must be a libtard.
SBHater–
wow dude, real mature, taking pleasure in someone getting injured.
Reeeeeeaaallll Matuuuuuure buddy.
these comments, so value add, keep up the good work as many appreciate you putting a stream of consciousness into the comment section.
VOR, comments and online talk are really the point of this website. If you don’t like the discussion don’t read it. Also, edhat online threads are not “stream of consciousness,” which is a literary style and has no relation to this conversation except for being written.
The past couple years of pavement work in the City have been absolutely abysmal. Brand new slurry seals are delaminating all over town! I know the City has to take the lowest bid, BUT they can also disqualify certain contractors. I don’t know who did the latest work, but they should be blacklisted.
This is a County maintained road, not the City.. just saying.
We have a LOT of potholes, it’s a mess in this town. The one in this picture is in the road and not in the bike lane… not that it makes it ok but the bike lane there is really open a clear, why ride in the road?
You see the dashed white line? The crash took place where bikes merge into traffic so they can take a left onto the bike path.
jimbo212 – that’s correct setting up for the left onto the “Obern Trail” attempting to avoid the parallel cracks in the road (just as treacherous as huge holes in the pavement). The google street view from 12/22 shows the hole before the “almost repaired”, whoops missed a spot… https://www.google.com/maps/@34.437903,-119.766012,3a,75y,343.27h,87.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUIbDeEM-nw9xQQ0OVQLcdQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Gotcha, it’s hard to tell with the pics. City, county, whoever is responsible for roads and sidewalks in this city really need to do better. Also something needs to be done about the eucalyptus trees around town that are all falling or about to fall. People are getting hurt when they shouldn’t!
A couple of downvotes for being factual, apparently. The same crowd who whines about masks and lies about climate science (plus one very opinionated guy who habitually makes silly generalizations about “spandex warriors”–a weird flex about clothes that are engineered to be comfortable and visible) are here telling falsehoods about bicyclists .
SNICKER – I use the term “spandex warriors” to describe the guys and gals who race up and down Cathedral Oaks. I have no problem with their clothes, just a common term here that everyone understands so I don’t have to say “the guys and gals who were tight jerseys and shorts, riding really nice race bikes in groups.” Sorry if that term is offensive to you. Not sure what falsehoods you’re talking about, but I see these folks multiple times a day, EVERY day riding through the stop sign across the street from my house, usually without even slowing down. That’s no “falsehood.” I also see DAILY groups of 2 or more of these types of cyclists riding 2 or more abreast, which puts drivers at risk of head on collisions on some curves in Cathedral Oaks, especially near Stowe Grove park. It’s just a factual observation, no “falsehood.”
I do apologize if you don’t like my observations, but….. that’s what I see. I have also seen my kid almost severely injured while walking through a crosswalk and a spandex clad “racer” not even stopping and nearly clipping her at a high rate of speed. Again, just my observations. Now, I’ve seen cars roll through signs as well, but not nearly as often as cyclists. No “falsehoods” here.
I thought the only possible solution for potholes was the do it yourself approach our former governor took recently shown in the article below.
https://www.npr.org/2023/04/12/1169459278/tired-of-waiting-arnold-schwarzenegger-fills-a-pothole-in-his-la-neighborhood
Another approach to dealing with potholes is turning them into planters and putting in flowers. This makes them more visible and improves the aesthetics of the road.
https://www.openculture.com/2017/08/people-are-planting-flowers-in-potholes-around-the-world.html
I thought we would just have to accept potholes as we adapt to living with decaying infrastructure. However, now that bicycles are involved I have hope the potholes will soon be repaired. The bicycle lobby is the only organization in this area with the power to get something done to fix this. They would never repair the potholes for the people who drive cars, but if the bicycle lobby demands the potholes get filled in for their safety it just might happen.
Yet another solution that has been used in the past: start graffiting dicks around the potholes. Not joking, this has been effective in getting the attention of those in charge.
BTW, I used to work for the City and the streets maintenance crew PURPOSELY keeps a massive backlog of work, for job security. These bozos literally said so in a meeting. It was shocking. And did my or their superiors do anything about it? Nope!
Didn’t it turn out the “pothole” he filled in was an intentional trench dug for utility work?
Orv, yes, it was, but the work had been completed and they were waiting for it to dry out further or just hadn’t gotten around to filling and finishing that trench. Obviously, they waited a lot longer than they had to! I was very curious about the end of that story too.
Another whine from the bike fanatics. The pothole is clearly visible and far from the curb. The rider has some responsibility to avoid potholes, rocks, branches, mud, running water, and other such things. And we know that even when bike lanes are present bicycle riders ignore them to ride in auto lanes to avoid having to stop and share the bike lanes, etc.
It’s a warning, not a whine. You, OTOH, are fanatically whining.
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It may be quite visible with that light and at that angle. Potholes can be hard to see if there is water in them, and with shadows in play or of course after sunset. Obviously cyclists would prefer to avoid them.
Pothole looks so large in photo it’s hard to imagine how the rider could have missed it – unless he was texting at the time. (Don’t get excited, it’s just a joke!)
From the crack in the surface over to the curb looks like there is something else going on under the street and the patch that failed doesn’t look very worn .
The city must know about it, make them fix it again for the 3rd time.
Hope all the Pot tax revenue can help this!
I think this is where the Modoc Preserve people come in and explain that filling potholes violates the terms of the Preserve and must not be allowed. 😉