[Read an update to this article here]
Reported by Roger the Scanner Guy
Shooting victim at the Glass Factory on East Camino Cielo, it’s unknown if this was self-inflicted.
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Yet another reason it’s time to have a conversation about guns……
The “Conversation about Guns” is appropriate; educate every citizen young and old about safe gun handling. Prohibition has not worked for alcohol or drugs, why would it work for firearms? Black markets are way lucrative. Teach every citizen, preferably from a young age, how to safely handle a firearm, recognizing that at some point in their lives they will likely be in the presence of firearms. Simple, factual reality. As for the “Glass Factory”, I used to shoot there, but only at 6-7am when it is virtually deserted and those that are there are educated and sane, such as retired law enforcement officers with whom I could have not only edifying firearms related discussions, but mutually assured ceasefires for advancing to set up paper targets. After going there in the late 80’s on a weekend afternoon with drunkards tossing beer cans and shooting from their vans, not to mention hearing fully automatic fire from down the firing line, I gave up and joined the Winchester Gun Club. That really is the safest and most sane place not to mention being civil and hospitable. Join the club!
Educate – yes, because we are, unfortunately, awash in firearms. But we should also work toward elimination, which will take decades, but we have to start acting sanely sometime. Just look at how much progress Australia has managed.
Why so quick to give up on gun control? Guns are different than intoxicants. It’s not human nature to want to buy guns, it IS human nature to want to alter reality. Just because prohibition didn’t work, does’t mean some sensible gun control (banning certain types and devices – like the bump stock) can’t work. Gun lovers are way to quick to give up on even trying to compromise. Nothing in the 2nd Amendment says you have the right to ANY gun you want. Time to give up something to at least try to help stop the slaughter of children.
I personally think we will get a lot farther not by demanding to begin to give up guns, but to start small and try to pass some better regulations – universal background checks, closing loopholes, temporarily removing guns from situations where mental health becomes an issue. I think it is doing a great disservice to all of us to be so far on polar opposites of the spectrum, because the harder the left fights to eliminate guns, the tighter the gun owners are going to hold on. We might not be able to eliminate guns, but each side can make some concessions and at least get some working, enforceable regulations on the table. Start there
A good start would be to limit the firepower of both handguns and long arms by restricting their capacity to some small number of rounds, like 3 or 5. No detachable magazines. Single-action only, with no semi-auto, so they would have to be manually re-cocked between shots. They would still be useful for hunters, target shooters, and home defense, but they would help limit the casualty count when misused. We must also confiscate and severely punish for any weapons found to exceed those parameters.
What’s sad is that this boy is probably on life support and won’t survive after being shot in the head and needing CPR. That’s the saddest part! It could have happened from any kind of gun and now his family is suffering. I am against guns, completely, nothing okay about any of them in my book but that is NOT what concerns me here, it’s this boy. Very sad!
CHANNELFOG – Yes, Australia has banned guns. And what are the gun violence stats there? Here, I’ll help you out on this: “Last year a Reuters analysis of Australian Bureau of Statistics figures showed that in 1996, Australia had had 311 murders, of which 98 involved guns. In 2014, when the population had increased from about 18 million to 23 million, 238 people were murdered, 35 by guns.
In other words, the likelihood of being murdered by gunshot fell by 72 per cent in that period, from 0.54 to 0.15 per 100,000 people, Reuters said.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/las-vegas-shooting-australia-gun-laws-control-stephen-paddock-2nd-amendment-nevada-firearm-a7980671.html
PSTASR – I bet Australia hasn’t had any mass knifings or mass beatings where 17 children were killed within minutes. GUNS ARE THE PROBLEM. If you can’t see that, then you’re not paying attention.
Your anonymous comment is ignorant and your condolence is both self-serving and insincere. Show some respect and presume not to dictate to me. My father in laws’ death WAS NOT NEEDLESS! He was suffering greatly, he did the right thing and had the tools, knowledge and the nerve to carry it out. He did it so as to minimize our families’ trauma. How DARE you suggest his death was needless? Shame on you.
Does anyone care if the victim is okay? My son and friend got a tickets for shooting there once.
I always thought everyone it was the “safe” place to go practice. I am just praying the victim survives but I doubt the Glass Factory will now.